Yet the 43rd mechbrig did exist, hence the question and disappointment it isn’t really added to germany, before that they were also in pretty close relation sometimes having exercises together already from what I recall atleast
If I saw that correctly, then NL sold pretty much all Leopard 2s by 2011 except 16 Leo 2A6(?).
The 43rd was integrated into the 1. PzDiv in 2016, so they are “historically accurate”
Personally I’d rather have a separate Benelux (considering the numerous military ties between Belgium and the Netherlands) situation, but it would indeed be great should we be able to use the 43rd decal also on german vehicles, like the PzH2000.
Recently, we bought new 2A8s I believe, I still believe the dutch leo’s should’ve been added to germany personally but I doubt it’s going to change unfortunately.
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That would probably be a more ideal situation, as we do work together often as-well
They sold all of them (mostly to finland and Canada), and then started leasing German Leo 2A6’s.
The 43rd decal was never seen on those leased leopards, but instead on Dutch Boxers, CV90’s and PzH2000’s I believe.
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Additionally, aside from NATO exercises, I don’t believe we do a whole lot with France, I’m pretty sure that’s mainly the Belgians (Correct me if I’m wrong @Thomas_Belgium I’m assuming you’re Belgian here due to the username)
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Indeed, the Dutch-Belgian(-Luxembourghish) connection is extremely strong (integrated or longstanding cooperations in almost all fields), but Franco-Belgian coop is mostly a recent thing, of which the Dutch only take part with on occasion.
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Therefore it begs the question whether the dutch should’ve been added to france, as I can understand the belgians from recent diplomatic ties, but not the dutch really as we do more with the germans.
Or a seperate BeNeLux tree
Thank you for confirming here by the way.
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The problem isn’t with recent years, but has more to do with early-cold war, and especially the second World war. Under which, understandibly, dutch vehicles in the german tech tree would stir up a lot of trouble.
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It would indeed, however we must not forget the existance of the NSB, the collaborators or the Dutch regiment with the german “elite” troops, that travelled far behind them in reality, that existed, I’m sure those used some german vehicles as-well.
The cold war however I see no problems with as we had an F104 if I recal correctly, we also had a meteor and (maybe) an f86 but I am not sure about the last mentioned. I am 100% sure about the F104 and meteor though.
Check out the Benelux suggestions on the forum ;) :
They have a lot of the more unique or fitting Dutch and Belgian planes.
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You’ve just lead me to a gem and I love it.
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I hope that dutch tank will have dutch crew voice lines
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Ah yes, French MBT
Another 2A4, Dutch/German but somehow in the French tree to be alongside another 2A4 and not a French vehicle in sight… even though France doesn’t use the Leopards in the first place and these Dutch Leopards were integrated with the German military… but no it’s for France…does it even come with Dutch voice lines?
They’ll do anything to not give France unique vehicles.
Also feel free to explain what makes this a ‘modernized’ 2A4.
This update, France gets a premium copy pasted Leopard 2A4, a premium copy pasted F-5, a “paper” Leclerc prototype that still manages to weight 53t, no VL Mica, no Jaguar EBRC or Leclerc XLR, or any other vehicles that would make sense to add, Gaijin is gaijining forever…
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They could atleast given pre-order camo.
Alright there are a few thing wrong and strange here.
First of all the ‘‘LES’’ on the tank reffers to a Learner vehicle for driver training. These often don’t really have turrets but rather a glass dome for the instructor to ride along.
The license plate on the tank don’t seem tracable to an actual tank.
(or it’s just very hard to find in the public dutch defense archives)
Also a question here: Why does the pre-order get the 43 Mechanised Brigade emblem when being added to france? In march of 2016 the 43 brigade turned into the current mixed dutch/german 1st German Pansterdivision.
It’s not that hard to find this information.
43 Gemechaniseerde Brigade | Koninklijke Landmacht | Defensie.nl.
So wouldn’t a actual emblem of the ‘‘Opleidings- en Trainingscommando’’ be a better option?
(it’s on the tank model so why not give it as a placeable decal)
Or from something like 42 tankbatalion emblem have been a better option? They had the 2A4 aswell. They unfortunatly ceased to exist due to government cut back in 2012.
Just as a bonus since it is seen on the 42 emblem
And yea it was once part of the 43, but since Gaijin still thinks the Dutch should still fight for France and not Germany in this game, it just seems a very odd choice.
Don’t get me wrong, i love seeing Dutch vehicles being added (not under france tho for obvious reasons), but they don’t seem to do a lot research into the actual history or model variations.
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unfortunate but thats how it is, france is bound to be shafted every update
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