If they not add weapon that should be. Community will on fire.
9M, 7P, 54C+, and TT version should be the minimum demand. Community needs to be throwing a JA37DI level protest over this…
2 Likes
I mean, look up at the rest of this thread and you’ll see people are already mad about it being a premium and it’s armament.
3 Likes
Like gromvoiny did?
How is this not taken out of context?
4 Likes
It being premium doesn’t bother me (it should, but there are other options premium wise in the US tech tree), it’s the armament.
It’s just not fair. At the same BR there are Su-30 with R-77/PL-12 and R-27ER. F-14D having only normal AIM-54C? Ok, but then it’s defenceless close range when everyone either has high G radar missiles or IRCCM (which the F-14D lacks in both; not calling AMRAAM high G… but it is compared to Phoenix) missiles
1 Like
I hate to be the breaker of bad news but from what I know, F14B does not get data link, so technically yes, it can use the aim7P, but it would lack the ability to “relock” the target for the missile which is kind of the whole point of the aim7P so it would just behave like aim7m where if you lose the lock, missile just go blind and you cannot relock: F-14B missing Aim-7P // Gaijin.net // Issues
But i agree that F14B should have gotten aim9m for the longest time ever. The plane itself is pretty mid at 13.0 and there is no reason for it to not get it
1 Like
Actually, wait a minute, let me get this straight.
Best version of the F-14 ingame is a limited event vehicle that costs upwards of $100 now.
Second best is set up to be a $80 premium. (And STILL has gimped armament…)
Both TT versions are left to rot comparatively…
Grats Gaijin, you’ve gone and ticked off the tomcat fans.
6 Likes
Wait but the aim54 has DL what type of reverse Pentagon wars magic is this?
2 Likes
Thank you for giving people who play the US tree and/or are from the US the biggest of middle fingers. Seriously - let’s even start with the fact that you added the D model as a premium in the first place. You made the Iranian version - with vastly superior missiles - an event vehicle, and the only version usually seen in Arcade. Had you made the ‘F-14A (Late)’ aka the F-14A+ before it was renamed the F-14B and only really had I want to say the engine upgrade and RWR change as a premium - could have lived with that. Which by the way - you should change the F-14B’s name to F-14B (Upgrade) cause that’s what it is. But you lock the definitive version - limited as it’s differences are from the B in terms of gameplay and all, behind the damn paywall?
But let’s get beyond that part. And keep in mind I’m an Arcade player I’m using Arcade BR’s. You gave Japan - in it’s tech tree, a 13.0 MiG-29 with RVV-AE’s - when it’s own premium F-2 with only SARH is at 13.0 which you seriously need to drop that things BR about 2 stages - that is consistently seen in the 12.7 MM range cause of setups people use to pull it down, on top of the lack of planes in certain BR ranges anyway. The bigger crime here for ARH missiles is the Su-30’s you added to Russia and China at 13.3, that have been getting pulled down in to the 13.0 MM bracket, absolutely caving everyone from at least 12.0-13.0’s heads in, 11.7-13.0 if the player is really unlucky and it swaps to beyond 1.0 matchmaking. With 6 of those missiles that can all be fired at once, I’d say about the IR missiles where they have more than a Tomcat but no one actually uses them on those planes.
But the US - ‘here, have the B with 50 miles more range you don’t need, an IRST, and a glass cockpit’. Cause that’s all this really is end of the day. And what - your gonna put it at 12.7 like the B? Or are you gonna say this somehow increases it? Either way you might as well sell it as ‘give us 80 dollars to get your head caved in every match by Su-30MK2 AMV’s and MKK’s’. Move it to 12.3 on the Arcade end, it might actually have some value, emphasis on might because the rest of it’s weapons at least are on par with the 12.3 Hornet to make up for the fact it’s not exactly nimble and the AIM-54’s are not only garbage, but you STILL haven’t given the AIM-54C it’s proper speed around Mach 5 for what little good it will do that missile. The tech tree versions as it is need a BR drop in Arcade with how bad they do, especially after all the Fox-3’s added after that are vastly superior (Iranian one needs to go up in BR to at least 13.0). And you can’t even be bothered to at least give it 9M’s? For real? What you should have given the US for it’s ARH premium is the F/A-18D (the two seater variant) with AMRAAM’s, even if it’s the worst version of them on top of the extra seat and all to lower it’s ability and BR and put the missionized B in the tech tree before the Harrier and the F after it - which should have honestly already happened. Or an F-15C back when they had the AN/APG-70, with the older model AMRAAM’s and strip off whatever ground ordnance, or better yet all of it back to an Air Superiority fighter, to get it to 13.3 BR to match the Su-30’s. Hell, a Block 30/32, 40/42, or even 25 F-16 with AMRAAM’s would be better at 13.3 to give us something actually on par with the Su-30’s you added. All of the option you had - but you went the F-14D? Unreal.
Know what - you better take that F-14D model, and take a page out of so many Russian vehicles, and the F-15C Golden Eagle playbook. Cause they had the plans and funding to add the AMRAAM to the F-14, but they passed it up eventually to free up more for LANTIRN, just like the GE upgrade for the 15C was passed up. So at least give us an F-14D (CSU) [Computer Software Upgrade] that can fire AMRAAM’s, and has better short and mid range missile options. And don’t try and give any nonsense about ‘compatibility’ or whatever - the Radar was literally designed for it and just needed the software upgrade, and the AMRAAM was more or less designed to replace Sparrows 1-1 so we know the Tomcat can carry at least 6 of them, and there is literally photographic evidence, for all I know even video evidence, of an even older model F-14 testing the damn things so it 100% can.
And even if you dropped the American Tomcats a stage in Arcade like they need to 12.0 and 12.3, and made this 12.3, I still would not pay 80 dollars for it, when it’s half off I’d at least consider it. Cause I’m still likely gonna have to deal with the vastly superior missiles of the Su-30 twins who get themselves put in to the 13.0 matchmaking.
14 Likes
The iraf is also the most used f14 in air RB at least until the latest br change no idea how it is now
AFAIK the iraf was played more than f14a and f14B combined
1 Like
Comparing the MKK radar (which i played extensively) with all the western radars ive played (majority of them) its definetively lacking in comparison. The scan speed is what kills it for me, medium scope takes ages to finish
Its much better if you keep it in ACM/hmd mode
Greatly decreases the chance to lock on to random fever dreams and exceed the effective range of the r77 unless you drop from the stratosphere
I just want dev to understand this so much
1 Like
Give it AIM-9M’s and AIM-120 AMRAAM’s, or at least AIM-54C+'s, and I will preorder it.
I have the Su-30MK2 AMV. If this Tomcat sits at a BR in range of the Su-30’s, it is going to be worthless. Not worth a penny. Give the Tomcat(s) their proper weapons and I WILL pre order it. If not, I will just keep seal clubbing all the F-14’s I encounter with my Su-30MK2 AMV. I can’t even remember the last time I died to a Tomcat in my Su-30.
9 Likes
oh and didnt get 9M and 7P too.
1 Like
And i was happy to see 14D implemented… i saw premium, said ok.
I saw armament… ok time to pull the plug … let it die.
We asked if AIM-7P was possible in 14B.It was but it would be AIM-7M because AWG-9… 14D has APG-71, no AIM-7P.
AIM-54s still artificially nerfed to crap…we waited if 14D has 54C+ which is BIG improvement for the missile…yes…no.
AIM-9L?
But yeah, ok… GJ. It’s my favourite plane ever and even if would buy it… i don’t want to give money to GJ because they just disrespect everything non Russian. I mean , we people here see AVIATION…we LOVE AVIATION…we don’t give 2 fks about nations etc. ANd you are disrespecting legendary planes that were epitome of AVIATION unless they have a red star on them…
Pityful… Execrable company…
Absolut beggars…
11 Likes
F-14D has risen
Billions must tank stadistics.
1 Like
That only works when youre within ACM/HMD range.
Does not help with situational awarness, which is as equally important.
Unless you rush furballs, but thats not my style.
2 Likes
They havent done that in a while because the F-14B STILL DOSNT HAVE ITS AIM-9M!!!
1 Like