Pre-order: Battleship Gneisenau and Battlecruiser Sevastopol

TBH, the 38 cm Gneisenau wouldn’t bothered me this much if it was tech tree vehicle, but since they are locking it behind paywall, that’s basically gatekeeping the semi-unique stuff. Same goes to Sevastopol especially since the Soviet is severely lacking in actual domestic capital ships.

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gate keeping OP stuff

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If it is it should be foldered in the Scharn, similar for any other ships of the same class and refit / almost no change between them

Does anyone know whether we can swap to Gneisenau’s historical gun setup? Just as feature?

I don’t think it’s something likely to come anytime soon. By the way the premium Gneisenau we got have plenty of visual alternations besides the planned 38cm guns. For example the forward superstructure was quite different than the historical one, and the main mast was moved backwards like the Scharnhorst while historically Gneisenau had her main mast fitted over the funnel. If the historical version ever to come I think it’s most likely to be an individual vehicle.

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Awful awful practices on display with these

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So you basically tossed the data to prove your point and refused to show what you asked. Quite a tendentious don’t you think. You stated one thing that new aiming caused player drop and can’t proof it. That is all those treads is all about, people who disappointed in new system of aiming trying to convince bystanders that we all doomed, when those who play keep on playing and don’t care about your rant, that just pathetic.

This would have been a better choice than making up the 38cm version…

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With all due respect this has nothing to do with the current topic of this thread, please direct it elsewhere, thank you

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I genuinely hope nobody buys these so they drop in price

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Hell I’d take a missile cruiser over a bb for Russia :)

Especially since the Scharnhorst magically won’t die despite being hit in the ammo many many times.

Tell you what. I’ll take the time to run the data you say you want, whatever it shows. But if it shows a relative decline in Naval AB 2 months ago compared to all other modes, which is what you seem to want to see disproven here, you’ll agree to never troll on in every single off-topic naval thread about how Naval AB is better now ever again. Deal?

I don’t know how it’ll turn out, but on those terms, given all the complaints you’re getting, I’d consider it a community service. :)

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never said that, it will show same decline in NAB and NRB, now bring it on, and then try too say it’s new aiming hurt playerbase nonsense and not the absents of events(when people switched to farm ground and air marathons), bugfixes, real new content(not just another vehicles) and gameplay changes which was for years now, what is really declined the playerbase .

I would have jumped at one or both of these premium botes before the changes to Naval Arcade aiming. But now? I will not even consider them when they go 50% off during sales. I will keep repeating myself until changes/fixes/or a full reversion of the aiming changes happen. I LOVED Naval before, now I cannot stand it.

Please Devs/Managers/Mods have a conversation with us Naval players who are unhappy with the Naval Arcade changes, thank you: [Poll] with multiple options for the changes to Naval Battles

The screenshots below are to show my willingness to spend my $'s when the game/mode is enjoyable. But the current state of Naval Arcade has been absolutely ruined for me. My favorite premium bote lineups:



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Sorry about feeding your troll. I’ll keep any response from now on in my own thread.

EDIT: Aaaaand shadowbanned. I wonder by who?

Hey I have no problem with taking this to the mods if he tries again. It’s about time they noticed Kweedko’s actions. As promised, I’ve put the stats in a better thread for them.

But anyway, here’s my on-topic take on OP. I think there’s a serious chance that the June Ship-a-ganza, including these store premiums, is going to bring people back to naval who have been ignoring it. And it’s very possible they don’t like what they see as far as the AB changes, and the ongoing inversion in popularity between naval AB and RB will be accelerated. But we’ll see.

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So what, someone liked new one why devs should prefer your position over their?

So you retreat when saying you will bring data asked here?

It’s fine im just trying to keep it on topic, tbh i am planning on buying these myself, the german one at least, i have an event ship i want to play but i refuse to play anything without a lineup

Can I suggest that you advocate for settings to toggle between methods of aiming in arcade rather than for a straight reversion of the changes?

You are more likely to get somewhere with that suggestion

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I actually did, and opened a bug report, but the bug reporting managers completely ignored my post, closed my report, and responded incorrectly/with a statement that doesn’t even address my report. I’ve tried. Been ignored the entire time, I have simply been playing other games now and spending my money elsewhere. Until we are no longer ignored, posting a couple/few times a month on the forums is the most I can muster.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/4OHnVjZwifFf

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Because it’s not bug. Make a suggestion in suggestion section.

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