Pre-order: Battleship Gneisenau and Battlecruiser Sevastopol

Hard pass - $80 rofl most games seem to offer pre-order discounts on stuff this expensive where’s the incentive to buy this.

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Wouldn’t work.

Wow balances a destroyer Vs battleships through things like HP and damage. Totally fictional things

War Thunder models realistic damage and there is no way a destroyer should ever be the same BR as a battleship

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they are listening, but more to the sales numbers than people complaining
if the number of sales stays higher than the complaints then nothing will change

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The problem is if money from the packs going to be reinvested in naval development especially gameplay ones, not just another models, or will be spent on Air and Ground as it was last two years.

I mean, I hate it when 1950s DDs get 4.7 while WW1-era 1918 BBs are in 7.0. In 7.0 CAS is stronger so they should have AA but would told Churchill Su-30s gonna spamm Kh-38’s at their Battleships in WW1?

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Hopefully it will be spent on improving modes that actually matter.
Naval + all Sim modes should’ve been EOL’d months ago.

Sometimes the game and it’s players outgrow something, and it’s for the best to acknowledge it sooner than later.
I won’t sugar-coat it, making Naval and other Sim modes to actually work decently and thus having a healthy playerbase is really risky, which is something I highly doubt Gaijin is ready to do for little to no return.

According to Statshark, aforementioned modes combined hold like <5% of the total playerbase, so pulling the plug on those (especially Sim) is a really easy way to free up some server space and time wasted on development and balancing.

#LetThemDieInPeace
#TheyWontBeMissed

It will be spent on the bonuses of higher ups, obviously.

Don’t you know how modern companies work

As I’m sure you’re very well aware, up until June 1941, Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia enjoyed a very fruitful mutual economic cooperation. Germany bought raw materials, and USSR bought technology, including some Panzer IIIs and a partially built heavy cruiser (!)

Why then are you trying to create an impression on the readers, that a sale of 38cm naval guns would be the most impossible thing ever?

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As the US

No, because that means someone will still have advantages.

Reversion to aiming how it was at least a year ago would be best.

I dropped playing arcade naval for the new aiming system alone.

Plus it lends to more boting as is, as is can be disgustingly easy to disguise now.

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especially since the Sevastopol was laid down in 1939, and the Bismarck herself was completed, and Sunk before Operation Barbarossa started, While Tirpitz had also been commissioned before Barbarossa

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the biggest fantasy in all of this is the USSR even being able to create even a quarter of the ships it had planned considering the absolutely laughable state of their naval production capability

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Sure

At the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, the ship fleet of the (RKKF) consisted of 3 battleships, 7 cruisers, 59 leaders and destroyers, 218 submarines, 269 torpedo boats, 22 patrol ships, 88 minesweepers, 77 submarine hunters, and a number of other ships and boats, as well as auxiliary vessels. Under construction were 219 ships, including 3 battleships, 2 heavy and 7 light cruisers, 45 destroyers, and 91 submarines.

The losses of the Soviet Navy during the war amounted to 1,014 ships of various classes, including 2 cruisers, 4 leaders, 30 destroyers, 102 submarines, 34 patrol ships, 91 minesweepers, 128 submarine hunters, 139 torpedo boats, 77 patrol boats, 34 armored boats, 5 minelayers, and 197 auxiliary vessels (rescue ships, hydrographic ships, etc.).

Ew modern ships. WW2 ones are best

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Scharnhorat entered service the same year as Bismarck. Gneisenau one year earlier.

The guns were planned to be the same.

The ammunition would have been the same or more modern.

Absolute madness, the Soviet paper fleet in particular.

I only hope Gneisenau will find it’s way into the game in a configuration that actually was realised.
In similar fashion to Strasbourg perhaps.

Guys should I buy the Gneisenau? I know it’s $150 but like… she’s pretty… and I really want to get into naval

Scharnhorst was in service 5 years before Bismarck even hit the water

As always I think its best to wait until the update drops, so you can test drive her and see if you actually want to play Naval, or just like the idea of playing it.

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I mean I’ve been enjoying it so far, I have up to 5.0 in Britain but my main issue is that research takes FOREVER. I don’t have any naval premiums (aside Moffett but she’s awful) and I don’t have premium time

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