They should have been added but indigenous SPG should have been added first and these foldered later
TLDR we found this on gaijin’s desk:
Who wins?
Carefully searching for each nation’s unique SPH, searching for its data, and modeling them as accurately as possible before adding them to the game
VS
Haha copy and paste goes tatatatattatatatatatat
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Hummel and especially wespe are much lower though. Wespe has only a 105mm gun like the stuh42 at 3.0. So you have an open top, lightly armored vehicle with similar mobility (roughly similar hp/t). It would be at 2.0 if not lower.
For hummel it is similar. It wouldnt be above 3.0 if it doesnt get some of the experiment shells suggested by @Ghostmaxi. It would be the sturmpanzer 2 but with slightly better mobility, faster shells but bigger. The faster shells are the biggest advantage.
I think these vehicles should get added but they cant compete with post war vehicles and west germany simply used these vehicles. Germany btw should get the artillery used by east germany aswell. What germany shouldnt get is the priest, despite west germany using that aswell post ww2, because that is similar to the wespe
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That would be nice
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Copypaste slop is obviously bad due to uninteresting grind, but it can definitely help Gaijin and us players to better understand the difference in skill levels between nations.
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It’s not enough that american howitzers are copy pasted everywhere now you want the soviet ones as well? Is it not enough that too many soviet vehickes are in the italian and british trees already?
What is even the point of nations at that point if all of them get US and soviet spgs.
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I concur. I’ve never been a proponent of self-propelled artillery being used in a direct-fire, anti-tank mode; IRL this was done in emergencies. Yes, Cold War (and after) has SPA with anti-tank munitions but this is for indirect fires. WoT has the better usage of SPA in that they can plot fire indirecty; SPA should be kept in the rear for that purpose. But this is just my opinion and I don’t foresee WT changing anything mainly because they’ve sold premium SPA and that wouldn’t be fair to the buyers to have their vehicles taken away. What WT can do is cease adding SPA to the game, just freeze what’s already in game.
I don’t like artillery being added as tank destroyers. It also seems to be that “shared vehicles” are one of the new trends since the M44 (we all know what the purpose is).
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Artillery rigs are easy kills when you see them, but besides that, there is really no use for the elevation/range abilities/no maps big enough to fully use artillery unless you are aiming at a plane
I can’t play anyway. I don’t understand. Players submit so many suggestions for vehicles. Why to still change the skin all the time? Why be lazy all the time? Can’t you come up with something very distinctive? I myself have submitted seven or eight very distinctive vehicles, and other players have also submitted a lot. But it never came out…
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Funnily enough people tend to forget this goes both ways.
It is perfectly fine having preferences. I also have preferences. After all, you said it yourself, people dont have the same tastes as you.
Nope, I answered in accordance to OPs pool, that my prefered solution would be to remove all of them. I just didnt limit my answer to M55.
While I find things like M44 and M55 annoying, I dont find them that annoying to want them removed.
However what gets me tweaking without fail every damn time is when I meet LRF equipped arty in 1950s tank.
Yes I know, introduction dates dont matter.
But the odds are stacked against the 1950s tank, the LRF equipped arty is probably more mobile, reloads faster, no armor best armor and does not need to aim beyond seeing a single pixel worth of my tank at 1000m to completly obliterate my entire forehead.
Why be good when you can just direct-fire 155mm HE shells with pinpoint accuracy?
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Because unlike Italy or the UK, germany used it. East germany is a part of german history.
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The PzH2000 is just criminally undertiered. Its really not an issue with the SPHs themselves, you can easily uptier it because 155mm HE is viable at most BRs.
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Saying that SPG’s are here to stay is just as much of a moot point as any other of my questions. Its more about seeing how the community would handle this circumstance, rather than deliberately trying to change Gaijin’s mind on an issue. I understand that forum replies are likely to be bias, but its still insane that 10% of people want to remove all of the M55’s.
They are under tiered and the PZH-2000 especially needs a br increase. The entire game needs a br increase though to decompress since it is impossible to balance certain vehicles with the current system.
Means nothing. A fraction of this community ever visit these forums. A tiny fraction. Not even that. It’s like when everyone thought the community was boycotting the game before the economy changes, when player numbers actually increased during the boycott and most people didn’t even know there was one in the first place. These polls mean nothing. SPG are here to stay, simple as that.
I comprehend. People who visit the forums are way more likely to identify issues because people who don’t identify issues just play the game and don’t post anything.
They shouldnt have been spammed across so many trees but might as well keep them now.
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THE M44 & M55 should be at least at GRB 6.7 - 8.0 NOT AT 4.0 - this is a clear example of Retarded Snail Logia and displays a total lack of understanding about how tanks and things actually work. Modern vehicles have no business fighting against WWII ones. A medium tank from WWII is NOT equivalent to a medium tank from the post war period (1945 onward) … it is fucking stupid !?
or is this an attempt to degrade War Thunder to the braindead World of Tanks ?