There is a difference between can and will.
Most probably would run 2x R-27R, but because you could run 6x R-73 it should be balanced much like the F-16/Gripen A with 6x Aim-9M.
Like Buc S2B, few probably will run the 9Ls, but it still needs to be 10.3/10.7 because it could run 9Ls
I know about the code, I was under the impression that you were suggesting that the current code/missile data should be changed.
As I said before, Shatshark is useless for simulating missile turns.
From what I understand of that chart, that’s a theoretical max G overload the missile can pull after launch, but that doesn’t mean anything valuable in practice.
Each missile can pull max G after a certain speed is reached, but at launch, it will be much slower. And the fins take time to react (just like aircraft ailerons don’t instantly go up and down to their max values), its not an instant reaction, and in the case of the r60m/aim9L, the former reacts sooner off the rail and is able to pull harder mainly because of that faster reaction and stronger acceleration.
I’m unsure if the r60m can pull a tighter circle than the aim9L. But those kinds of maneuvers only matter at very short ranges, where the aim9L wouldn’t react in time to begin with.
there is a very simple explenation to the r-60 turning better:
i know that dosent tell the whole story but it is enough to get an idea
and aim9l is also alot longer range than the r-60m while only turning slightly worse at really close ranges, which is a pretty good trade-off imo
Magics are heavier than both and turn better. Just like aircraft, the body and wings (fins for missiles) matter a lot too. Weight is important but don’t tell the whole picture.
Yes, the main advantage of the r60 is that faster reaction time and faster acceleration.
i know thats why i said:
as it stands the r-60 was designed as a “gunnery missile” and the aim-9 as a longer range missile
the US started using/ actively developing close range dogfighting missiles only after they learned about the r-73 after the german reunification
That’s exactly where they work well. Within gun range.
to get back to the topic:
thats all good on the mig-21 and mig-23
but not so well on the mig-29 against 4th gens
a aim-54 would never make that turn
It’s the exact same, and sometimes easier to get kills because you face more “hot targets”.
I’m not saying the r60m is a better choice than aim9L in most situations, but when someone is aware of you, the r60m is better, since the only chance you can hit anyone is if they don’t flare in time.
12.7 Mig-29s are not in a bad position when compared to the other 12.7s, only the yak141 is considerably better, since it has a better FM and a better loadout with 4 very reliable radar missiles (for 12.7)
lol
Netz is on 12.7 without irccm missiles or radar missiles
Never thought I’d see the day these terms become mainstream outside of the incel forum.
Everyone has been saying this. The current loadout config sucks for everyone. If you’re a MiG player you have to contend with having only 2 AAMs and 4 APS projectiles. If you’re facing a MiG you have to face R-27ERs with AIM-7Ms. We need to ditch the R-27ERs for R-73s.
(Knowing Gaijin the Soviet Rank 8 premium fighter is going to be a 9.13 that conveniently happens to have exclusive access to R-73s)
and somehow 13.0 in SB
what the sigma? im just expressing my skibidi rizz, im migmaxxed and r27erpilled on god fr fr no cap.
Sounds a bit like yet another BR compression issue
Gaijin logic is rly something
I don’t understand the argument for the mig-29, if you give it 6x r-73s even with the er removed it would be 13.0. And at that br the flanker is simply a better option, why up tier the fulcrum?
