Yeah I corrected my statement after. The existence of the bison isnt helping your argument that the mig-29 with R-73 should be 12.7
Sidegrade to Mirage 2KCS5 :) Can’t be put at 12.7 though. I guess you think the CS5 needs to be 13.0.
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Have you played both? They are both good 12.7s at the same level in my experience
Yes…
So??? The topic is exchanging R27ER for R73
and i know which i would take over the other any day
and it is not the Mig-29
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I think we can all agree that an early MiG-29 with R73 instead of R27ER would belong somewhere between 12.7 and 13.0 in the current state of things. So why don’t we just push for it to be implemented in parallel with a br decompression (maybe I have way too much faith in Gaijin, but that seems like it would be a good solution)?
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Which would make it considerably better than its current form to the point of bumping it to 13.0.
The best example of why it would be the case is the Belgian F-16A that sits at 13.0 with an arguably worse loadout. Not doing so would be biased against it and a few other 13.0s
No.
No.
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Mig-29G is 13.0 because of R-73s.
Swapping 2 guaranteed frag R-73s for strong radar missiles is a sidegrade for the platform.
That rationale is easily used to justify F-14B, F-15A/J, Mirage 4000, F-16A [Benelux], JAS39A to 12.7 because no R-27ERs/missile count doesn’t matter. I am not arguing that, I am not portraying you as anything. The arguments contained in your post are flawed, and I implore you to come up with something better. Please.
@Normandy_Corsair
1v1s are a different beast to air RB. No one is doing direct comparisons of aircraft to each other right now, we’re discussing air RB balance.
@Ion_492 Mirage 4000 has worse flight performance than Mig-29’s currently bugged state, and the Mig-29 can only get better.
F-16A has marginally worse IR missiles that doesn’t matter IMO, and the same 60 countermeasures unless it’s base bombing.
Demanding R-73 Mig-29 at 12.7 is pure Russian bias.
Ofcourse, 13.0 is one of the most compressed BRs.
You have things like the Belgian F-16A, the gripen A, mig-29G and the sea harrier sharing the same BR as a damn su-27
This along with the 29G are on the fringe lower elements of 13.0 and are basically the bridge between 12.7 and 13.0. The 9.12 with R27R is worse than the 29G… their loadouts are roughly equivalent.
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Nobody implied different.
So am I.
No, it doesn’t.
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The point being they belong there. Making them club 12.7 would be worse than letting them be mid at 13.0
And the F-16A doesnt have radar missiles, the R-73 + R27R loadout is plain better
No, it isn’t.
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SU27/33 def deserve to be moved 8 or 6 R27ERs against late F4s like F4J and early mig 29s is a slaughter there absouletly insane
only with decompression
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Not having a single SARH missile is better? Bru…
You could even remove the R-27R too and gaijin would put it at 13.0 anyway with the current BR compression.
It’s pointless ruining the current 12.7 mig-29 which is already a good option for the BR and bumping it into the 13.0 blackhole.
I’d rather wait for decompression before ruinning another mig-29
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13.0->9.3 being crazy compressed cause premiums bruh
R73 for R27R is a sidegrade. You can say that having more options make you more dynamic and able to adapt, but it doesn’t mean you’re necessarily better. The R27R is worse than mid at 13.0
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i would say the load out of the F16A is better souly based on aim9L but if the mig 29 could carry 4 R73 and 2 R27R1s it would be better in its current state no
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