[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

In-game it depends a bit on the versions. The finish F-18C is a decent ratefighter since it has the C engines with the A weight.

Now since this is a mig-29 topic, the F/A-18A or C early FM is more relevant for comparison. They are not bad ratefighters, and when paired with good 1C performance they make good dogfighters.

But speaking strictly of ratefighting, the mig-29 does 21.5 deg/s and the f-18a does 20.5 deg/s. Having said that, it seems to me that the f-18a is the better dogfighter by a small margin, considering the performance outside of optimal ratefighting.

But since the mig-29 can disengage at will, its not an issue in a real match, and in a 1v1 the mig-29 will always start in an advantageous position because of the R-27ER which will force the F-18 to either be notching or scrapping the ground before merging while the mig-29 can just dive on it and lag pursuit

No, you saying teh F18 was designed to rate fight, is like saying that the P47 was designed to turn fight.

It simply wasn’t

Thats why i added the sidenote in the beginning of my comment.

I don’t think i called you or anybody out in this thread in particular, unless you’re also a dcs player, which i’m gonna assume you’re not… right?

That title belongs to the F-35.

Source:
Trust me bro.

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Statshark massively overestimates the MiG29 Fm

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The values I gave are from actual in-game testing earlier today. No statshark here and I don’t trust it much.

Statshark overestimates and underestimates on the mig29 FM, the curves are all wrong. It underestimates max sustained rates, says 20.5deg/s instead of 21.5 for ±700kph turn rate, and overestimates lower speed rates.

It also underestimates every F-18 max sustained rate by 0.5 or 1deg/s can’t remember exactly.

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If War Thunder wasn’t realistic, then it wouldn’t be as successful or unique as it is, so that’s clearly not the case.

Realistic vehicles are quite literally the main selling point of the game.

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Guys, please define “realistic”. Because this game is as close to be realistic as a sandwich is close to be a salad.

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I get what you are saying in a way.
But if the game went full flight sim with real G limits etc it would die in no time

But lines have to be drawn for gameplay,
1 min of usable fuel for eg is the worst thing iv ever seen in a game… in the name of balancing, realism or any other nonsense.

If you are using full throttle in any of the rocket planes, you are doing it wrong

Iv tried. 15 deaths - shot once, rest crash. 1 kill- pilot snipe as guns, to add salt in the wound are 100% broken- pretty vital for a shooting game but just lol.

IRL “Its intended role was to intercept B-29 heavy bomber”

In game its fighting mig21 and f104. Buy yh its realistic 🤣

whenever i see that emoji i know it is not worth to continue the conversation

Cool 🤣

Rocket planes are the victims of game design. They are either completely broken so you have to put them at obscenely high br, or completely useless (irrc, you can’t control throttle smoothly on Me 163)

you can

They fight vs supersonics and missile slingers - if nobody turns with you what are you doing exactly with the 1 min of fuel?

Used to have a little more fuel and were still pretty bad from what i read. Good for 1 kill and RTB. Now its no kills and no RTB

Added to this the guns just spark.

if you put them at their “historical battle rating” they will absolutely annihilate every single lobby. You want to make entire 6.0-8.0 bracket unplayable for the sake of a single aircraft?

it had several set thust settings, not the smooth throttle like on jet fighters or props.

Not at all.

From what i understand some guy worked out that the ki200 engine was too fuel efficient= gajin make it useless for realism.

I read it did actually have 8 mins of fuel IRL. Approx 2 used at takeoff. Was actually designed to spray at bomber and then kamikazi lol. Not sure how much is true.

Did anyone really care other than this nerd?

They could of give it a advanced air spawn to balance. Fixing dud guns would also help. Or just ignored the fuel “issue” all together for balancing/ fun value.

you are just mad because one of your favorite planes was nerfed

Iv played since jan… so never even got to play it before.

The only reason i mentioned it as it corralates to what is happening right here.