[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

Radar line doesn’t give as much info as a soft tws lock does it? You will need to fly straight and have many scans till you have a reliable heading cue, not to mention speed

i still can see where the guy is flying in RWS, i can see his closure rate/ speed in PDV
you do not need TWS to fire fox-1 missiles

“why use 2x guaranteed kills if you can use 2x likely kills”

This is like replacing the R24 with R60s on the MiG-23

try that shit in sim pls where the opponents have more braincells than a brick wall and aircraft performance is more important
id really like to see how good your K/D gets when you actually have to use your plane instead of abusing stupid lobbies

GpEVh9bXwAACJ4v

6 Likes

You’re confusing radar with HMS. HMS can be used without a radar.

What you mean to say is that F-18 and MLU have better radars, but MiG-29 has HMS, which is a big advantage in your eyes.

Back in the day I was thinking like that as well, omg Su-27 and even MiG-29 have TWS while F-15A doesn’t.

Until I got MiG-29 and realized that its radar scan speed is too slow for TWS to function properly as you would expect on F-16C for example. It loses targets pretty easily if they maneuver, because it doesn’t get updates fast enough. It’s still a nice thing to have for extra info about heading and speed, but it doesn’t make the MiG-29’s radar better surprisingly.

So we agree that having TWS is better than not

if you are unable to use a radar without TWS it is a skill issue, i never use it on the mig29 because at ranges where you need to use your radar a guy in the late phases of the match will easily defeat your r27
dosent matter if kinematically or through multipathing

in my entire 700 hours of DCS and Warthunder flying the 29 I have never once bothered with the 29s TWS

its scanrate is horrifically ass

1 Like

Mig-29 outaccelerates, outspeeds, outrolls and has a dogfight advantage over the F-14A or B

dont even bother

his frontal lobe seems to spongy

Not really. Not to go too far off topic but I’d rather have the F-4S radar with HMD over the F-14A radar with TWS. And that mainly comes down to the quality of the PD.

hey F14 fanboy

wanna do a 29 vs F14 duel sometime

F-14A, sure, playing energy it’ll lose.

However, the F-14B? Really?

What does that have to do with dogfighting even if that was right

Sure

1 Like

idk, some people fial to understand that in missile-BRs running isnt a valid option

1 Like

You are running away from the argument. Best radar kit of 12.7- yak141, 2nd best- mig-29a

Reasoning:
Reliable all aspect hard lock
Subpar TWS
HMD

Other 12.7s will either not have TWS AND HMD
Only TWS, altrough better (but you say its useless so…)
Or only high prf pd radars without HMD too

If TWS is useless from your point of view, the hardlock is as good as any other, and you get HMD to boot.

Seems like you agree then

F-18A has TWS HDN at 12.3
and a normal proper TWS
and Reliable all aspect hard lock

so this part is completly wrong

i found a radar with noraml TWS and TWS HDN what isnt a HPRF only radar below 12.7

Didn’t you say something against negative KDs?
The following is not shaming you. I repeat, I am not shaming you for these stats.

If air RB is full of bad players why is your KDR in Mig-29s negative in that game mode?

Your best overall jet aircraft is Lim-5P [and He-51s for props], which explains why your posts have been praising dogfight performance.
You’ve not even seriously used the Mig-29 9.12/9.13 while I have 9.12 spaded, and 9.13 almost half done.

I am here to discuss things in a civil manner.
You are here to share your perspective as well.
So let’s do that without either of us having personal attacks in our posts?

I can 1v1 you…

@ron_23 It’s criminal how F-18A got under-BR’d from the start.

image
wrong

“oh no the sim main is negative in RB”

get a grip dawg

Yes really, F-14A and B are sidegrades on the dogfight performance. B has more thrust and slightly SLIGHTLY better sustained turn rate. A is lighter considerably, better unsustained energy retention.

Nothing, I was just pointing that it has a better FM about everything even outside of dogfighting