[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

do you even know what thread you’re in?

After gaijin milks the pre-f2p period? Sure…

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Read the name of the thread again

And then read the opening post

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It’s usually a safe bet that people in this thread ignore that provision, if people have finally moved on from saying it should retain the 27s and get 73s, wonderful. But the case still holds even without ER, 6 x r73s would be 13.0 following the comparison outlined.

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R-27R =/= R-27ER

It should keep the former and lose the latter.

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Well, 6x 9M is apparently 12.7 material, as well as 4x Magic 2+ 2x 9M.

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Don’t forget the actually usable FM, better radar and RWR, and even guided A2G missiles

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2 Nords for CAS is hardly game breaking

Nobody said it was

That is still better Cas than the mig29

It is but it isnt’t like it has a full racks of Mavericks. It has bombs, rockets and 2 MCLOS missiles for ground battles it’s a poor choice

Please look at the topic again and then tell me why you are complaining about the most op 12.7 only having nords for CAS

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It’s only 12.7 in Air RB not ground battles.

It is 12.0 in GRB

Which is still absolutely not relevant to this thread

Ppl in this thread were comparing it to the Mig29 in an A2A role
And asking for the Mig29 to get its historically correct loadout and not about how good anything is for doing CAS

All you are doing is moving the goal post by saying:
“But it only has nords, they aren’t that good for CAS”

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The following aircraft are examples of what 13.0 should be: F-14A IRIAF, F-14B, Tornado F3, F-16A [currently 13.0], Mirage 4000, Sea Harrier, J-8F, F-5TH TCU, F-4F ICE, AV-8B Plus, Kfir C10, 2 Viggens, Gripen.
14 vehicles.

Of course Mig-29’s flight models should be fixed, their thrust curve is incorrect.

Mig-29 and the new F-16A OCU if both have IRCCM missiles, both should be 13.0.
Exceptions should not be made.

And yes, I did include bad flight model fox-3 carriers.
I believe that F-15A and Su-27 are better without AMRAAMs than bad airframes with AMRAAMs.

MiG29 has dumb bombs

dont forget the dumb rockets

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Those sure are game breaking

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not to mention ITR

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no, just look at MiG-29G. At 13.0 with ERs and R-73s. It does not perform that well, especially comparing it to Su-33 and Su-27 or most other 13.0 aircraft. simply giving it R-73s while removing ERs should not put it up to 13.0.

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Especially because it has bad FM ingame still.
If by some miracle Gaijin decides to fix it then yes, but MiG-29G should be foldered.

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