[Poll] Remove the R-27ER from the early MiG-29 variants

well now there is no reason for the Mig-29 to not get the R-27R + R-73 combo

F-16A OCU being added at 12.7 next update with the Magic 2
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There’s no way that doesn’t get moved up what are they thinking

4x Magic 2 or 6x 9Ms

if 2x 9Ms and 4x Magic 2s plus an AMAZING flight model for 12.7 is ok then so is 6x R73 with an abysmal dogshit flight model

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dont forget the avionics

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why?

If the f16 ocu actually goes through bring me the 12.7 mig 29. No more objections from me lol

why is it lower br than French f16a with 6x 9M at 13.0

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what exactly makes it a 4th gen

Good question. I can see the logic because TT one has funny MAW pylons and way more CAS options, as well as HMS for IR missiles but i am strongly oppose such logic being used for balancing reasons especially for Air RB.

And the odds of it staying at 12.7 are basically 0.

There is already a 6x AIM-9M F-16A, and it sits at 13.0

Only F-16AM gets the MAW pylons. F-16A does not.

maybe BVR, Multirole, PD radar, Maneuverability, HOTAS, MFDs, new airframe and engine

ah yes, those are just 90 CM pods without MAW attached. Anyways, squadron one has no business at 12.7 and should be 13.0, otherwise it is clear French bias

most of this is a 3rd gen quality (bvr, PD radar, multi-role, maneuverability, airframe)

the rest don’t exactly make a 4th gen aircraft

It’s really funny how people in this post kept repeating that R-73s would mean the MiG-29 would have to be 13.0, and here we are, with an F-16 at 12.7 with 4 magic 2s or 6 9Ms.

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If you’re gonna make that argument, at least be correct.

It is 4 magic 2s + 2 9Ms, or 6 9Ms. But the argument also doesn’t hold, as the mig 29 carries 27 ERs, and the 12.7 f16 with 4 magic 2s carries nothing in the form of SARH missiles. Not to mention it will go to 13.0 even if it is currently 12.7, so your position doesn’t particularly hold water.

do you even know what thread you’re in?

After gaijin milks the pre-f2p period? Sure…

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Read the name of the thread again

And then read the opening post

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It’s usually a safe bet that people in this thread ignore that provision, if people have finally moved on from saying it should retain the 27s and get 73s, wonderful. But the case still holds even without ER, 6 x r73s would be 13.0 following the comparison outlined.

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R-27R =/= R-27ER

It should keep the former and lose the latter.

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