Hello could anyone help me find MSPO 2001 images?
IMRA - Wednesday, October 10, 2001 Polish-Israeli venture unveils 'Fitter' fighter upgrade - overview of the upgrades
The upgrade was joint venture between IAI and WZL-2. They did a bunch of upgrades to aircraft no. 9305. Link has more info.
Cockpit 2001
Display 2001
Obviously the upgrade never happened (honestly if they kept the Su-22 now and just upgraded it, it would still be competitive in today’s environment)
But in 2007 WZL-2 Upgraded Angola’s Su-22M4. The upgrade range wasn’t that much though, consisting of: new mission computer, new HUD with CTVS camera, MFD 6x8, data transfer system DTS, GPS, and IFF
Angolan cockpit
Sorry for the watermarks, it was pretty hard to find these photos without them
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Thank you so much for the help :)
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Miodożer brzmi lepiej xD
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A ja mam pomysł na Miga premium, w 100% historyczny i ma unikatowe oznaczenia ;)
Przyjmie się? ;)
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Polish TT Update:
Robur 1800 with ZPU-2 has been replaced with Star 660 with ZPU-2 (2.3)
In the folder on 2.7 istead of BTR-40 with ZPU-2 turret - K-61/PTG Amphibious vehicle with ZPU-2
And when in topic of wierd vehicles the PF621L with 75mm Multi purpose gun was replaced by TOSU-76
From other things worth Mentioning:
HSW-Pandur 6x6 as a premium vehicle (8.3)
BWP-1M RCWS-30 as an event vehicle (10.7)
And his older brother
BWP-1M Puma at 8.3 in TT after BWP-1
WWO Wilk 105 name was changed to KTO MSA 105
which stands for
Mobilny System Artyleryjski CT-CVTM 105mm
or in english
its KTO MAS 105 - Mobile Artilery System.
And that’s all for now, its not a huge deal but there are things that are worth more mentioning than saying that “we deleted that, added this and BR has changed”
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I wanted to this mention this, because every proposed Polish tech tree seems to miss this vehicle:
Are you aware of the existence of the WB-10?
It was supposed to be armed with a domestic 47 mm armata wz. 25 “Pocisk” Field Gun
Or a British 6-pounder (57 mm).
This would basically be a Medium tank at BR 1.0. Or even a Heavy tank by the standards of the mid-1920s with a crew complement of 7.
Also any Polish tech tree concept, should actually mention that the modern flag of Poland is different from the flag used for most of the 20th century
From 1928-1980, the flag of Poland had an orange-ish hue, not red. The official color is Vermillion (#E34234).
Basically any interwar, WW2, or communist era designs should be using the Vermilion flag.
Any modern designs should be using the deep-red color everyone is familiar with today.
For AA technicals, there is also the 20mm Polsten which was an improved massively Oerlikon 20mm aircraft gun being developed at the time Poland fell in 1939. The plans were smuggled out by the fleeing Polish Army into Romania and the design was actually produced by the allies.
This above technical for example would be fitting for both the British and a theoretical Polish Tech tree (Polish gun mounted on a Canadian truck). Mostly for BRs 2.0-3.0+ (you can find many such chasis)
Other 20mm polsten platforms:
LVT-4 and LVT-5
Centaur SPAA -20mm polsten
Centurion P5 prototype with 20mm polsten (6 were made, 1 survives today)
The last one is a bit of a stretch since it’s not the main armament of the vehicle, but it illustrates that there are “polish-influenced” designs that could exist in multiple trees.
Edit: the recently added Skink SPAA also uses the 20mm Polish polsten as well.
There is no certainty that Gaijin would add something like this that is unfinished.
We don’t really have that much right to it, unless it was operates by Polish forces fighting for the British.
Also SPAA isn’t much of a problem currently right now as we have a large selection for it
In this case, it is more real than the vehicles like the ho-ri prototype. The tank actually did move and the intended armament did exist. The project was only rejected because the aircraft engines implemented were prone to overheat over pro-longed usage.
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Yes but at the same time they they recently removed some of the fictional Japanese air vehicles and replaced them with Thai alternatives. There’s no telling if they will or they will not
Something like this though is what you’d propose to the developers as event vehicles. Stuff that’s funky unique and “out there” and at least plausible in that it was almost complete.
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I mean as long as it was partially complete, it should be eligible.
There are even German photos of the Polish WB-10 tank (captured)
In this pic, it’s already been partially dismantled. The two rods on the sides, are the external fuel tanks visible from the prior photos.
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I also did open a bug report about the flag being incorrect. Wondering if it’ll go anywhere:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/y0w6zwM1fH2u
1955 UK government book:
[Flags of all Nations BR20 - published by Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, London
Well it should have grounds to make a suggestion. Would be cool to see it have either gun (hopefully both variants so they can form a lineup).
The emblem and the flag with the emblem where the eagle has no crown were used between 1955 and 1989 in the People’s Republic of Poland (PRL – Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa). And honestly, no Pole would want to see a flag with that version of the emblem. A less controversial option would simply be a white-and-red flag, possibly with a different shade of red.
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