I like how the USN developed an HMS for the Phantom but was like nah we dont need it on the F14 or FA18 lmao
they actually did test it on F-14.
yeah i just read about it, still lol
Yes 9m please and stay at 12.7
In that time F18C early should can carry 9m already
And its a premium so it should have a better MM
Further more, even the F1C200 got irccm missile like Magic 2.
So F18C early should add 9m and stay at same br
If the F/A-18C Early receives 9Ms it should absolutely go up to 13.0
Compare it to the other planes that are already 13.0:
- F-15A and F-15A Baz - 9M, 7M
- F-15J - AAM-3, AIM-7M
- F-16A (Belgium) - 9M
- Su-27, Su-33, and J-11 - R-73, R-27ER, R-27ET
- MiG-29G - R-73, R-27ER, R-27ET
- JAS39A - 9M, Skyflash-DF
- Mirage 4000 - Magic 2, Matra 530D
The only planes that don’t have IRCCM that immediately come to mind are the F-14B (which should have 9Ms anyways), F-14A IRIAF, and JA37DIs, and those planes are there because they have Fox-3 missiles. Anyways, the F/A-18C Early would fit much better being a missile truck (like the Su-27/33) being 13.0 with 9Ms than it would at 12.7. Speaking of 12.7s, let’s go ahead and compare it to 12.7 planes:
- F-16A ADF/MLU - 9L, 7M
- F-16AJ - 9L, 7F
- F-16A Netz - Python-3
- MiG-29 9.12A/12B/13A - R-60M, R-27ER
- F-14A Early - 9H, 7F, 54A
The only real exceptions here are the Yak-141, Mirage 2000D RMV, and Mirage 2000C-S5, all of which get IRCCM missiles in very limited quantities - very much not like the F/A-18C Early, which would have up to 6x 9Ms.
All in all (and TL;DR) if the F/A-18C Early were to receive 9Ms it would 100% go to 13.0. The kit paired with the FM fits 13.0 much more than it does 12.7. At 12.7 the C Early would simply be too strong.
That is woefully problematic…
The Mirage F1Cs also have much worse flight performance and way less missiles…
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This ain’t world of tanks, it doesn’t get that. Nor should it get it anyways
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and again su27 j11 mig29g mig 19 gripen all have head mounted displays, the rest dont
I notice your idea
If it has 9m, it is understandable to raise it into 13.0
However i still wish it would stay.
Besides, no offense but missiles are missiles, no metter how bad is the FM. Magic 2 still bring advantage than jets in same BR. So i would understand is BR goes up if 9m would be added
Off topic：F20A is still a very joke premium lmao
When did it get HMD? Because the Schchel-U3M was developed for the MiG-29 at the same time (also the R-73)
bait used to be believable
are you slow? do you have any idea how 6 9m + SARH missiles would make 12.7 AND 13.0 days completely unplayable for redside its already nearly unplayable why make the BR non existent by creating yet another broken blueside jet?
Lmao how 9m will make 12.7 and 13.0 unplayable
It makes you crash your computer？
Or player just lazy to flare in different pattern
I genuinely do not have the words to describe how dense you are are all US players this bad? the JAS-39a f-16a MLU with 9ms and av-8b+ are all 13.0 and make the mig-29 with at most 30 flare pops nearly unplayable not factoring in the f-14a iraf and kfir c10 do you never play anything on redside? Are you rage baiting?
If I’m not mistaken, you are crying for a hug.
You could flare R73 or 9m with like 3 flare already if you hit the right spot.
It’s not the fault of the missile itself if you didn’t even study how to flare an IRCCM missile.
Sometimes I couldn’t flare the IRCCM missile also, but I didn’t even complain since I know I’m not doing it well enough.
IDK what you are crying for
so 9ms require more flares than 73’s do this is because of how the IRCCM on the 9ms works it turns off its seeker and goes straight untill theres no more flares in the FOV then it tries to reacquire the most effective way to deal with this is a flare flower + a turn of to start dumping flares then to turn to try and get out of the seeker head
the R-73 just cut AB and flare as long as its far enough it will be decoyed and the mig-29 doesn’t have r-73s it has r-60ms
it has a worse RWR
it has a worse radar
it has a worse flight model
it has a worse cockpit
it has worse missiles
and it has less CM’s than nato jets on 12.0-13.0 and 12.3-13.0 days
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Please consider 9M has a larger seeker, it will capture flare much easier than R73. Besides, the shutter design makes it difficult to use in hand-on or from rare aspect. And for R73, you know even need to off your AB as long as you know how to let your launch into its seeker.
PS. R73 is more difficult to flare since you have to understand and position your flare well
it has a larger seeker yes but it uses a different IRCCM type you have to put decoys in the seeker the entire time untill the seeker is no longer looking in your direction or it will reacquire when you stop flaring or hit you anyway do you want to do some 1v1’s I’ll use my f-16a MLU at 13.0 and you can use any 13.0 with r-73s which I think is only the mig-29g atm
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Im not an experienced player and I know what the level of difficulty to flare both of them
But it isn’t that big game game-changing to raise it for once the BR bracket
Not that game changing mate
okay so you’ll be willing to consistently flare some 9ms against me?
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Holy cope, you need 9M and 7P at 12.7 to compensate for a certain something, maybe a certain something called…
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Skill issue?
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