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Abrams isn’t Russian.
Neither is P51H5NA.
BMPT is currently BR’d the same way M4A2E3 is.
Yak-9s are okay, but other aircraft exist that are better CAS and/or fighters.
USA has the most amount of under-BR’d vehicles for any tech tree.
They can’t stop something they’ve never done to begin with.
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The fact that the BMPT was moved up in BR doesn’t really prove it’s balanced. Plenty of vehicles have remained extremely effective after BR increases because their overall package is still too strong for the environment they fight in.
The BMPT has excellent optics, thermals, two high-rate autocannons, proximity-fused ammunition for aircraft, ATGMs, and enough survivability to shrug off damage that would disable many other light vehicles. In urban maps and against helicopters or lightly armored targets, it can dominate matches while requiring far less precision than many vehicles it faces.
As for the Yak-9T, the issue isn’t that it’s unbeatable. The issue is that it combines fighter performance with a 37 mm cannon capable of deleting tanks and aircraft in a single hit. Vehicles don’t have to be invincible to be undertiered or overperforming.
You also mention the Abrams and P-51H as examples of non-Russian vehicles that are strong, but that doesn’t actually address my point. Every nation has strong vehicles. The difference is the consistency of Soviet lineups. At many BRs, the USSR isn’t relying on one standout vehicle; it has multiple competitive vehicles covering different roles in the same lineup.
That’s why players keep bringing up Soviet balance. It’s not because every Soviet vehicle is overpowered. It’s because the nation repeatedly ends up with some of the strongest lineups and some of the most controversial vehicles at a wide range of BRs.
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There is already a thread for this:
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Russian favoritism has always been a thing in War Thunder—it’s just become much more noticeable over time.
I also don’t understand why you’re bringing up the Abrams. The Abrams itself is heavily nerfed, and many players have pointed out that its armor isn’t accurately modeled compared to the available information.
And this isn’t just an issue with American vehicles. The same complaints apply to many NATO tanks, which are often considered to be underperforming because of inaccurate armor or damage modeling.
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@CoyDK
No, not every nation has OP vehicles.
USSR for example has zero OP MBTs, while USA has over 10 OP MBTs.
USA is the only tech tree in War Thunder that has stronger lineups than all other tech trees for 7 years running.
USSR never has, USSR has only ever been on-par at best.
@Jakobus2011-psn
Oh, you’re following in the footsteps of TIGER TANK with Devil’s Advocate arguments.
Abrams is not nerfed, it’s being buffed even more.
Inaccuracies aren’t nerfs/buffs, they’re just inaccuracies which all vehicles have.
It does not.
That’s why it’s not classed as a light tank (be glad it isn’t one, having scout drone + souting ability would be stupidly busted)
Still best MBT, and getting better next update
They probably mean the time fuse anti air shells.
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Which only the BMPT (not T-72) has and aren’t proximity fuze.
I’m just trying to avoid some misinformation/misunderstanding being spread
They only mentioned the BMPT and not the -72. Yeah, they aren’t proxy. From the context it’s pretty clear which shells they ment but i generally agree with the correction.
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BMPTs aren’t one of those.
Right it just killed the entire br range both above and below it until its most recent moving up and is still highly prominent in gameplay for a country that is now boasting a 63 percent win rate or something like that at top tier, but its doing awful. Of course it alone is not the reason for Russia’s high win rate but it does make it a lot easier when that 30mm farms SP to nuke the map in an SM2 thirty seconds into the match lol.
But for real the Bmpt is an insanely good vehicle and to say otherwise is kind of just ignorance.
Top tier RU has 54% WR.
BMPTs have 53% WR.
BMPTs were insanely good at 10.3.
At 11.7 they’re fine but definitely not OP.
I mean they still kind of are? You have a 30mm with sniper accuracy and high component damage basically assuring that if you can’t outright kill something frontally you can instantly disable them before they get the chance to react, and even if they do react you are survivable enough to take the hit and keep fighting (Do to a range of issues some specific to the tank and others not compounding together). Not to mention it has four spammable missiles(with good control) with insane penetration values and the ability to cause overpressure even if they don’t penn the tank. Perhaps the worst thing about it is that it makes getting into cas insanely easy and quick in which case you will then pretty much nuke the map within two minutes of match start, which is really just how top tier feels at this point especially playing against russia.
Not for long.
With all you said here BMPT at 11.7 is far from being some monster, which is even proven by it’s global stats.
Yeah but most tanks don’t necessarily reflect how good they are by global stats which has long been an issue with balancing in the game something we all seem to acknowledge until it comes to mentioning such and such tank is overperforming. The Bmpt is a monster I mean its literally hold w and left click to win kind of vehicle.
If it was that easy I’m sure it’d show in the stats, like it did when they were down at 10.3.