You know what else sells? Skippable grinds for returning vehicles. There are many ways Gaijin could monetise the unlocking process for these if they brought them back. Gaijin gets both money and player retention!
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I have no problem with a vehicle being made rarer, whether by a long grinding/unlocking process or time-gated availability like the Maus (as long as it reliably comes around, say, once a year). I just wish they were available in any form, no matter how difficult. And that goes for most event vehicles in general.
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They could very well keep that as an option when they run out of modern stuff to add.
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Panther 2 Hull can be added so is the Tiger 2 105mm. Both of the hull already existed and the Tiger 2 with it gun already exist it shall be added back. Or else the Ho-RI with only it gun ever made shall be removed.
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When do people think we’ll reach that point?
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Gaijin, you confuse me.
I realise that bringing up the Ho-Ri has been done before, but I want to go a little deeper into the contradiction there.
So, in 2019 Gaijin takes the stance of ‘no paper vehicles’ and removes the German trio. The Ho-Ri Production, a vehicle just as fictional, remains in the game. Okay, sure - the Japanese tech tree is sparser than the German one and removing the Ho-Ri would hurt more. But then, five years later, Gaijin does this:
And if we look over at Enlisted, earlier that year…
Why remove the three German tanks from WT if you’re going to willingly add a fictional vehicle to games with the same historical focus?
I am not advocating for removing the Ho-Ri from any of the three games. Personally, I would love for Gaijin to redefine the scope of their game to include more vehicles like this and open the doors to so many interesting designs like the P.43 Bis and 183mm-armed FV215.
But to keep with the thread’s topic: please, Gaijin, be consistent and err on the side of making the removed German tanks available again in some way. There is nothing wrong with changing your stance to make players happy, and there are many ways it could be done that benefit both you and the playerbase.
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The same documents that contained that bunker picture contain these sketches, with vague info about captured Japanese documents and parts for super heavy tank projects in Kōtō Fortress, Manchuria.
This is the only evidence that ties the bunker turret with an actual tank project, but sadly these documents are in Russia and afaik the only people to ever have had access to them and then published info on the internet were Wargaming devs, and that was years ago.
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To keep the Ho-Ri and still be consistent all they needed to do was rearm the panther 2 with a 75mm and remove the TIger 2 105’s range finder and give it the standard tiger 2 engine…
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I guess that’s something, but this is still way less information than the real O-I.
I would argue that they don’t hurt the game in their current form while still being fun, comfortable vehicles to play.
Great info on those Japanese superheavies, by the way. I had no idea Wargaming’s Type 5s and the like were actually somewhat based in reality.
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Asking Gaijin to be consistent is like asking a Cat not to eat a mouse.
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No harm in trying. Maybe that cat will listen someday, you never know.
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That‘s the thing. It will, but only when it wants.
So one time it does, the next time it won’t.
Just how Gaijin implements anything in their game.
Yeah, I see what you’re saying. But what can we do outside of making our points here and hoping that the Community Managers forward them onto the people who make these decisions?
a bit more… a lot more tbf, they had added the schmalturm to the PII and armed it with an 88mm which is silly. the real PII was only meant to have the Schmale Blende or the Blendenausfurung with a normal 75mm.
the Tiger 105 was completely fake. so i dont rlly care for it. it shouldve been deleted completely. Coelian should come back in 2 or 3 forms. one armed with 37mm twin autocannons and another armed with twin 55mm autocannons.
third form could the the one they designed to hold 4 20mm cannons but that would just be a bigger wirblewind
The tiger 2 105 is a real proposal, the gun would have fit in the standard tiger 2 turret but rejected because it used two stage ammunition and made the turret very cramped, thus leading to very slow rate of fire.
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Ah i remember now.
Yeah the proposal was real. Ig it should be treated te same as panther 88mm.
Not as rare as you’d think. Around the time right after female cats give birth, if any fluffy animal kinda wanders nearby, they’ll often perceive it as their own offspring. I have seen this happen with a duck.
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Yeah i was surprised too, apparently the type 4 is based on the first engine layout (first picture) while the type 5 is based on the second lower profile engine layout (second and third pictures)
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Same with the Panther F with KwK 43 proposal.
The trade-off of a bigger gun wouldn’t really be worth it.
At least for the Panther, which already had a very cramped turret and a larger gun with larger ammunition doesn’t help with that.
Basically the same result, if they put a T32s long 90mm into a M26.
There were already plans to built Panthers with full automatic 75mm feeding from a 5 round magazin below the gun, to increase the firepower of the Panther, without any major redesigns to the vehicle.
But they barely produced any Panther Fs in the first place.
For the Tiger II, the main issue would have been that the 10.5cm gun and ammunition wasn’t produced or used by other vehicles.
So from a logistic point of view, it wouldn’t have made sense.
With so many Shermans and T-34s on the battlefield, reducing RoF of a gun that was already more than capable to destroy them, also wouldn’t have made a lot of sense.
They already had the Jagdtiger for when they could expect armor strong enough to withstand a long 88mm.
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