Please fix the F/A-18 and Su-30sm flight models

F-22 is far from a light airframe

“Lighter” not light I was highlighting the benefits of 2D TV because the F-22’s airframe allow it to be very effective.

Yeah it does help the F-22, but what exactly is the F-22 lighter than?

Su-35 and Su-57 which have 3D thrust
Edit nevermind the F-22 is really freaking heavy

F-22 is heavier than both

Yeah I just realized that. Idk why the 2D works so well on it then.

Because its about wingloading ratio and the f22 has a good one like the su30sm and the su30 also is a littel way to heavy and produces 4tonns less thrust than rl

The problem all the Flankers currently have is too much drag and not enough lift

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So that’s a good thing then? All the missiles being center mass with a ton of thrust.

Umm. No not really. Maybe su30sm2 with al41s.

isnt wingloading ratio just the weight/wing area for the jet?

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is your name actually ROSTMEO per chance?

I don’t really like F-22, but it’s the biggest engine power out there, F-22 can probably melt enemy jet in a dogfight if it’s close enough. Su-57 is a boat compared to it.

you know that the F22 weihgs ~19 tons empty?

engine power isnt everything as seen by the F-15E compared to the F-15A, for example

sure the f15e has more thrust than the f15a but overall the f15a has a significantly better flight performance than the f15e due to being lighter

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more modern versions of su-57 actually have more thrust than the f-22 (currently only the t-50-2 prototype though, but will be on su-57m serial later on).
And the su-57 serial has better wing loading than the f-22, so i’d bet it would compress less

pw 119 when izd 177

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while being able to carry more fuel as well

the f22 has really inefficent engines/ bot that much fuel as it cant make it over the atlantic without areal refuling

something that the Mig29 managed to do

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That’s what I’m talking about, it’s fat, but it has engines the size of those sleeping pods to support that. Engine power carries it, it is maneuverable.