Please fix the F/A-18 and Su-30sm flight models

one company made module vs community made mod in a game that has limited thrust vectoring support and highly limited tools for community developers

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might as well

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Exactly its designed to be that way.
Which makes its nerfs all the more harder to take.
When it is losing in BFM to Hornets and Su-30s

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Americans are better engine builders.

that doesnt mean anything other than its overall shape being unstable, and if anything it is still over preforming in some aspects

Then please tell me why you would design an inherently unstable airframe if it offers no advantages to a legacy design like a Su-27/30 or an F/A-18?

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No, I want the aircraft in War Thunder to preform close to real life, not close to DCS, it just happens that DCS does this better

The F-2000 isn’t over preforming at all, it’s actually been nerfed lmao

it already does… or you want more nerfs?

The most advanced plane in the world for nearly 30 years is expensive? Noo…

This is a joke, right? You do know that missiles have gimble limits, and surprise surprise, thrust vectoring can give the nose authority to acquire a lock in dire scenarios.

Thrust Vectoring isn’t bad. It’s simply a difference in doctrine.

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Thats a MOD btw

datalink

bfm

It’s around 3-4tons heavier on empty. And it also has relatively weak engines for an 18.8 ton aircraft

source?

yeah you’re not dogfighting a missile

All those missiles where 77-1s. Also, that Eurofighter merged with me at 1500 kph…uuuummm ah prob should have been going 750-800 kph and he would have had a much better chance.

Fox 2s (the specific variant of advanced AAMs I was referring to) do not typically work via datalink. Ergo my argument about TVC (used in BFM) being used to get a tone (for the fox 2s in question) still stand.

I thought it was around 140 million, but yeah it was a money sink

Optimistic at best indian Mkis lost to f15s in dogfights more than a few times during the cope india exercises held over the years

The low production run + the extreme trchnological complexity for the time was the reason. If it was produced and redesigned today it would be cheaper and better it just doesnt make sense to do so as it the replacement is well on its way.
And no its not a status simble its meant to insure American air superiority in the even of a war, which it undoubtedly would have, the assumption that it was kever the best jet hinges on your definition of “best jet”. Most definetly was the best air superiority aircraft but its a very specialized aircraft.

And no not really, thrust vectoring can be good for dogfights, you just need the engine power to counter some of the speed bleed. Dogfights are fairly irrelevant which is why at the end of the day TVC is only a tool to get planes up in the air faster.

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