Please Fix the Aim-9L and Aim-7P sparrow

These Two missiles in game seriously underperform. I’ve not had a singe missile track today well within the operational requirements. The only A2A kills I’ve gotten all day are from guns. The F18C early. I can understand not Giving it Aim-120s since its an early version of the platform, But I’ve fired well over 65 missiles today and only one tracked and it was a sparrow.

It doesn’t seem like the aspect matters, no matter if the enemy aircraft is showing his burner, they Aim-9L will ALWAYS go for flares.

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With the AIM-9Ls I would fire fox-2 less than 3km away on distracted hostiles, it mostly works because they always flare too late.

Ive made a post on the forum talking about the missing G load of the 9L.
On the 7P i haven’t seen anything wrong.

Lima used to resist flares. now every missile that is not IRCCM has 0 flare resistance and will go on random spot in the cloud before it lock your opponent.

and sparrow is just dogshit. the only way you can win in sparrow is if you have a good radar and can fire first before Apex or Alamo can be fired and you actively notch their lock attempt.

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9Ls were bugged in the past, still they didn’t change much.

The 9L has no IRCCM, being flared is not surprising.

But you say didn’t kill one with it, maybe you just used them improperly. Before fire you need to make a judgement that if the enemy has noticed you. For example if you’re chasing someone, don’t use 9Ls because they’ll be flared the moment you fire them. Additionally, target selection is also important. Attack hot engine planes like multi-engine planes(except F-5s).

It’s flare resistance is supposedly very high for a non IRCCM missile (in real life)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/PV1HITijUnwT

If you remember a few years ago this was more accurately implemented in War Thunder, however since then the 9L flare resistance has been nerfed a couple of times, presumably for balance reasons. Low BR attackers like A-10 and A-6 with 9Ls used to be insanely powerful on full downtiers where they faced jets with few or no countermeasures.

Since then the BRs have been corrected a bit and I think it’s fair to buff the 9L again.

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They aren’t. IRL they have quite good flare res compared to other non irccm missile. WT just dumb down every non IRCCM missile flare res to 0.

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