Planned BR change hurts France


We will go from the MCS (which already doesn’t have a line up) at BR 11.0 to the Leopard 2A5 (which wont have a lineup) at BR 12.3. Then to the bloated top tier line up at BR 12.7 which includes the x4 Leclerc’s and the Leopard 2A6. This means realistically you will go from BR 11.0 to BR 12.7 an jump of almost 2 BRs.

Gaijin had previously said they wanted to fill the original BR gap. This was “done” by adding a copy paste Leopard 2A4 and the MCS, untill it was upteired. So now it seems not only are we back to where we stated, but we have taken back another step…

Gaijin need to add some of the pre-seiers Leclerc’s
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or the countless Belgium / Cockerill designs.

Or another option could be to add some more French colonies, like they are doing to the British tech-tree.
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MCS, Leopard 2A4, AMX-40, and Vextra. Pretty okay lineup.
Leopard 2A5 does have a lineup with 12.7s.
2A5 is already one of the best 12.0s in the game.

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you say that but 2a7 is better in all ways other than acceleration while being way more survivable

frances top tier line up is stacked right now honestly

UFP isn’t all ways, it’s 1 way. And for medium to long ranges, but far less useful in closer ranges.
Thermal generation for forest maps is another way.
2A7V is 7kph slower.

you also get spall liners aswell and a way better UFP than most other nato toptiers allround 2a7 is one of the best tanks ingame and 7kph isnt a big difference also you get A L55 cannon with more pen and velocity and you get gen 2 thermals so your good on night maps and long distance forest maps

  • AH-129D/Tiger UHT/HAP etc same level as as Z-10ME/64E/28NM
  • Challenger 2s and VT-4A1 higher than Leo 2A5 and ZTZ99A

This is insane

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Gaijin should add some of the countless french/franco-swiss/belgian/franco-russian designs, yes. (Even despite gaijin throwing Swiss tech into Germany for some ridiculous reason, French tree really does need the designs they put together with the Swiss engineers)

But any colony copypasta can stay away. Algeria probably doesn’t want to be connected at the hip to France anyway, they had a very messy split historically.

As usual, this problem is one Gaijin made, and they can fix it if they just bothered to put in a bit of effort.

Vietnam and Algeria into France? Big no, these two countries want nothing to do with it

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More eastern copy paste to western tech tree?Please no. If I play Soviet tech tree, means that I usually don’t want to face Soviet vehicles.

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French tax. Should have played worse.

Players: decompress so the different capabilities of vehicles are better reflected

Gaijin: Leclerc/VT4A1/Challenger 2 = Leopard 2A7

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While the A7 is of course significantly better, the mentioned tanks are at least capable of taking out the Leopard 2 A7.

As long as the new helicopters share the same BR as the Tiger UHT (with a difference in capability comparable to a Tiger II being placed on the same tier as a Panzer IV), there’s really no point in discussing the logic behind these BR classifications.

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we could have gotten this a year ago btw
the benelux subtree introduction was just a way to throw in yet another 2a4 premium slop

Personaly, i dont see any big problem here. Leo 2a5 going to 12.3 is fine, line up for it going to be 12.7 in fact.
With Leclercs im fine i guess, imo they are better then leo 2a5, 2a6 and PSO but worse then leo 2a7 (but it is debatable imo) so i dont think that something needs to be changed here. The question is about other tanks like chalengers been at the same br as 2a7, i havent play it but as i know it is not very competetive at top tier but its is just what i heard

Yeah, there are enough vehicles in France that we can add, not too much copy paste.
In AA, we must have something between the AMX10p and the 30DCA.
10.7-11.7 → now 12.3 can be filled by some cited tanks by Wifi-Soldier98.
maybe tanks variant with T40 turret.

AMX10 RC with T40 turret
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Nexter try to put this T40 turret on the VBCI MKII with the VBCI RCT40.
Gaijin seems likely to add the Jaguar, so we can do a lineup with it by adding this.