Please move all Dm33, laser ranger finders and thermals to 9.7 br 8.3 and 8.7 suffers a lot due to those vehicles. The Xms are also an issue not to mention the Swedish CV90 TML (an automatic at least 9.3 br) at 8.7 dm23 laser range finder, thermals and mobility. Not to mention that Dm33 has received extra pentration on 105mm guns and extra spaw damage.
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Germany
Vk 3002
Ground Realistic
5.0 → 5.3
The Vk 3002 has been doing very naughty things to 4.0 for a very long time now. It simultaneously has nearly the best mobility, nearly the best armor, and arguably the best cannon at its BR. Most tanks it faces, especially in a downtier, are incapable of damaging it frontally. At the same time, the Vk 3002 can lolpen basically everything it faces, including heavy tanks considered overpowered like the T14, Churchill VII, and Kv-1.
As far as downsides, basically none. Its reload isn’t slow, it doesn’t have to use solid shot like 17pdr carriers, it’s not even a casemate. The only subpar characteristics of the Vk 3002 are the reverse speed and turret rotation speed, but both come into play rarely, and are easily nullified by the Vk’s mobility.
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To an extent I agree.
Vehicle: Challenger 2 Black Night/2E
BR change: 12.7 → 12.7
Reason: Both of these vehicles are identical to the base version (they dont have any of the extra armor the 2F/TES/OES gets, hell it doesnt even get the LFP romon ERA or the side composite screens the base CR2 gets with its extra armor 2E modification) of the challenger 2 except that:
-The Black Night gets the Iron Fist APS that isen’t relevant in 75% of matches, and isen’t able to stop APFSDS shells in almost every single map outside due to the close engagement distances.
-The Challenger 2E has the EuroPowerPack, which gives it roughly 500 extra horsepower, giving it a similar speed to the Leopards of the same br while having none of the perks that a leopard has (such as its incredibly powerfull DM53 shell)
Currently they’re 11.7 tanks put a full br higher because of a APS that isen’t relevant in most cases and 500 extra horsepower, and the decompression is a perfect reason to not move them up. It would also help which lowering the br difference between the 11.7 CR2s and the 12.7 ones.
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Hi, while the recent BR changes are a welcome step, I strongly disagree with the adjustments made to low-tier helicopters—especially machines like the Alouette, Scout, Gazelle, and several others, which are currently over-tiered.
The most glaring example of this imbalance is the comparison between the Mi-8TV and the H-34:
- The H-34 suffers from inferior flight performance and a weaker armament, yet sits at BR 8.7.
- Meanwhile, the Mi-8TV boasts significantly better flight performance and a much superior armament (including longer-range and more numerous guided missiles), but is somehow placed at a lower BR of 8.3
This is just one of many questionable balancing decisions in the low-tier helicopter bracket that urgently need a reviewThe BR changes are nice and well done but I can not agree with BR changes of low tier helicopters. Especialy with Alouette, Scout, Gazelle and some other types, they have higher BR then they should have. Main reason I do not agree with this desition is Mi-8TV, how is it possible that this helicopter has lower BR that H-34. H-34 has lower flight performance, lower armement, but somehow got BR 8.7 but the Mi-8TV with better flight performace and much better armament (higher range and more of guided rockets) go BR just 8.3 and there are much more examples of weird helicopter balancing.
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F2s radar is not what you are saying. It loses lock easier than most radars in the game. Feels bugged its that bad
Jet is great but radar no
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Prem SU-30s going up only one step is a joke.
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12.3s and the JF17 are the only winners I can see
Tornado, Kfir etc are RIP
I could understand A7E/A7D going up to 11.0 but why are we pushing A7K in higher BR even though its going “just” to 11.3 because it has 9L , Also why are we pushing planes (A-10’s) that fly +/- 650km/h in higher BR when it already getting molested in 10.3, 10.7 , 12.3 respectively, I know its gonna fight probably same things as it did up until now … but still… Su 30’s deserved
Dear developers, please take into account that with these changes you are completely killing the entire point of pre-top-tier cas in your game, and an entire layer of players who specifically buy planes for their setups and grind the tech trees will simply stop playing your game. If you really need ordinary players who play tanks to be able to calmly sit behind rocks for 20 minutes, you can introduce a tanks only mode specifically for them. But please do not kill grb like that.
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Cope. The same gun is also on Pz IV Ausf.C so down to 1.3 for it. Same logic.
The only reason the StuG III A is 2.3 is because it has 50mm frontal armor.
The 234/3 has just 30mm angled for the hull, and 14,5mm for the superstructure. 8mm sides and no turret. Its fine where it is.
Yeah idk what radar hes using but the F2 radar ive had times where a mechanical radar holds lock better in a notch than it does
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Are u planning to update SQB BRs referring to decompression? Are there gonna be more weeks in sqb season, or less with focus on highier BRs. Or sqb stays unchanged and forgotten as always?
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Game mode: Realistic Battles
Vehicle: T-80UD
BR: 10.7–11.0
If it stays where it is after the BR changes, it’s gonna be absolutely terrifying.
Game mode: Realistic Battles
Vehicle: 2S38
BR: 10.7–11.0
Same
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That tank is LITERALLY 10 years too old to even use that shell. The CHALLENGER 1 was being built when L23A1 entered service. And the FV4030/3 is a Prototype, THAT LED TO THE CHALLENGER 1 PROTOTYPES.
And the 900 is about 5 years too old.
the IRL 900 had a A3 barrel, not the A5 barrel that allowed it to fire Darts.
The A-7K AGM65B with the targetting pod are pretty good the others A-7s are going up too much in BR though.
I don’t know what you understand by ‘decompression’, but it’s normal for all the planes to rise when the ground br for planes rises from 13.0 to 14.0 and the ground br rises from 12.7 to 13.3
Have you ever flown the Su-24M in ground battles??? Like, this is just pure bs Su-25T mogs the Su-24M in everything but speed Su-25T gets a lot more ordnance and flares, and it flies a shitton better, Su-24M gets 3 Kh-29T’s and that is it… And it flies like a cruise liner
You can take this as a plea, haha.
You have the most playable simulation game mode on the market.
Please, give this area some serious attention.
Citing performance metrics, you’ve ended up making the aircraft feel too similar to one another; with the exception of the German tech tree, the vehicles are generally in a very good state.
In ground battles, you are forcing vehicles designed for the World War II era to struggle against post-war, mass-produced machines—tanks that feature rapid aiming, fast reload rates, high maneuverability, and superior ammunition. (Think of the Tiger II, Tiger I, Panther, IS-7, and perhaps the IS-3 or IS-6.)
Simulation battles are in dire need of proper balancing. The game needs to be grounded in reality.
Yeah I am well aware of that and am a victim of it myself.