Ratel 20 6.7 → 7.3
This IFV has the same firepower (actually better because of a higher ammunition count) as the Marder A1, MILANs and a 20mm autocannon. Yet it’s the same BR as the likes of the Zachlam Trager with just SS.11s, not to mention all the WW2 tanks it just lolpens. Give it APDS if need be.
13.3 tbh
Germany/France
SA 313B Alouette II
Ground Realistic
8.3 → 8.3
Very similar to the Scout AH.Mk.1. Only four AGM-22s and some 7.62mm machine guns. 9.0 is an insane br for what’s effectively an SL pinata at 8.3.
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If everything goes up in BR nothing goes up. If the su34 can be 14.0 so can the premium flankers.
The only Fox-1 carriers that could go above 13.0 are ones with HMD + datalinked Fox-1
I think you forgot to change the value of the br change.
8,3→ 8,3
ZT3A2 8.3-> 8.7 9.0
This carries tandem missiles with a meter of penetration, that are fairly high velocity and beam-riding, can be rapid-fired and all guided in to the target, all on a lightly armoured yet fully enclosed chassis. It doesn’t make sense to be lower BR than even may open-topped TOW carriers. It very well could deserve 9.3 but 9.0 is a good first step.
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Most low tier choppers are being raised. The Alouettes are moving from 8.3 to 9.0. I’m saying that that’s insane and they should stay at their current BR.
Why mess with the Ozelot, it already gets fucked over. Unless the enemy is on top of you, your not hitting anything, why make it 10.0 it makes no sense
The only Fox-1 fourth gens that shouldn’t be above 13.0 are the likes of the MiG-29s, F-14A, and F-18As. Ok and F-20A. But not the Su-27s, F-15s, F-18Cs, etc etc 12.0s should never have to face those.
France
SA 316B Alouette III
Ground Realistic
8.3 → 8.3
Identical to the Alouette II but with no 7.62mms. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one spawned. 9.0 is an insane BR for a chopper with just four AGM-22s.
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oppositely I think Mirage 4000 and Gripen A can be downtier to 12.7 if using the AIM-7M not performing well in 13.0 argument (I know Sparrows has been buffed but still nowhere near as AIM-7P), main problem with Mirage 4000 probably because it can carry 8 Magic II, Gripen A did once being 12.7 but later back up to 13.0, really seeing it a 12.7 material, probably the BOL pods and HMD it has what makes it can’t get 12.7 just like MiG-29 9-13
and F-16A Belgium also being a precedent of HMDless IRCCM in 12.7 if not counting F-15A/J/Baz
Exactly. Both should be the same br. But saying Su-27SM should be higher just because it has 2 more radar missiles but everything else better is wild
Vehicle: F-111A
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: stay at 9.7
Reason: It only has dumb bomb and rockets on a rather sluggish airframe that is quick to lose speed. Should not be higher than Su25K. Either let it stay at 9.7 or bring the Su25k up to 10.0 too.
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Yeah I see now… thanks for explaining it.
EDIT: I really tought they will do something with the M later and I was like " Okay they are at same BR for now, but it will be changed later"… seems I was wrong.
Now im just excited what are they planning at 14.3 and 14.7 :)
Sweden
HKP2
Ground Realistic
8.3 → 8.3
Identical to the Aloutte 2 but with floaties and no machine guns. 9.0 is an insane BR for a chopper with just four AGM-22s.
It’s similarly just an SL pinata for every plane and SPAA it faces.
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USSR/Italy/Germany
Mi-24A/D
Ground Realistic
8.7 → 8.7
Same trash armament as the Mi-8 and Mi-4. Same poor defensive abilities. 9.0 is an insane BR for a chopper armed with only four Falangas.
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F-102A is getting gunpod
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Vehicle: M41D
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change 8.3 → 8.3
Reason: This vehicle arguably already suffered at 8.0 with its abysmal post-pen damage and lack of a stabalizer. 8.3 was already a gigantic gut punch. It does not need to be moved up further. it would also fit in perfectly into the new 8.3 lineup of the type69, ZTZ59D1 and M113A1.
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Vehicle: M247
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.3 —> 9.7, NOT 10.0
Reason: It’s proxy shell has terrible velocity and it’s effective range is only up to ~2km MAXIMUM. It’s only really good at being defensive by shooting down incoming CAS munitions, if the enemy jet dies to it then they have to be flying straight or got too close.
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