Also a side note,
Now when there was 12.3 jets on ground, there was a slim change to not face top tier multiplatform sams, but now all new AA’s are capped on 13.3 in ground. So time to raise max BR to 14.0 or 13.7 for ground units also.
This is hitting quite hard especially on soviet/Chinese planes what doesnt get IR F&F weaponry or even optics.
vehicle：69IIA
gamemode：ground realistic
change：br stay in 8.3 or get new shell
reason：Raising the Type 69-IIA (692A) to 8.7 is possible. However, in War Thunder, the development team several years ago split APDS rounds into different variants. I will classify them into early, mid, and late versions here. Depending on the period, the normalization and shatter chance of APDS differ. For example, early APDS is the most likely to shatter and has the worst normalization against sloped armor. Unfortunately, the APDS used by Chinese vehicles is this type. Meanwhile, other Cold War vehicles at the same BR, such as Soviet, American, British, and German ones, all use mid-period APDS, which has far better normalization and shatter performance than Chinese APDS. If the Type 69-IIA goes to 8.7, its main shell will struggle to support its performance. I believe its BR should remain unchanged at 8.3, or alternatively, it should be given a new shell — whether another APDS or an APFSDS — and then be raised to 8.7.
these 2 are finally playable, idk why the gun pod wasn’t given when they came out
final note - nearly all CAS BR got gutted, some more than most, is there a reason for this?
Vautour IIN(C) are still not getting BR raise still
Yeah, and I remembered wrong those ARH’s on soviet version.
Could have sworn that it had 31PD’s also, not just P’s.
And this is also hitting quite horribly , since top tier AA is capped on 13.3 , where communist planes doesnt even have ir optics , not to mention IR f&f missiles.
Still not treatment to CAS userate.
BMP-2MD
Ground Realistic
8.7 → 8.3
It is the same as the regular BMP-2 and have same BR, however it doesn’t have any ATGM, so it is stuck with 72mm of pen with its main cannon as its only weapon. This means that there is a lot of tanks that it is not able to engage at all. The only real advantage it have over the regular BMP-2 is that is has thermals.
That’s uncalled for. 4000 has no business being higher BR than F-15 and same BR as F-2A ADTW. I have no idea how it ended up at 13.0 in the first place, but right now it’s in CL-13 Mk4 situation where it’s not played enough to get unfucked.
Did you read the BR changes? The 209 is going to 11.7 lmao
I missed that when reading it the first time
But still, A-10A Late has 6x AGM-65Ds at the same BR
The mirage 2000d-r1 going to 12.3 seems a bit excessive with just two armat and 2 gbu12, literally no reason to take it over the mk4000
He 162 has low thrust and is even inferior in climb rate to propeller fighters using WEP. It loses a significant amount of speed when turning. The same BR 6.0 as in RB seems appropriate.
PBV-501
Ground Realistic
6.7 → 7.0/7.3
It is a BMP-1 more that a whole BR lower than the other BMP-1. The only major thing that is different from this and the other is that this looses the ATGM. I mean, normally the cannon is also the main armerment of the BMP-1, and that performs very well with that cannon at 8.0, however somehow this sits at 6.7, with exactly the same cannon. It just doesn’t make sense why this is so low of a BR.
shouldn’t be 12.7 in the first place
Wow, you found 1 plane ( what you rarely see even now, since it is 12.7 and dead soon as it spawns on )
Now , take a list of all non communist planes having IR weaponry in there.
Dawg why would they slaughter the M247 like that? The he-vt is fine, but the fuze delays can’t do anything to tanks
Still proved you wrong, since you said there were no planes at all. Yet here is said plane.
Reasoning:
Me 262 has poor acceleration and lacks maneuverability. Because its armament consists of the hard to handle Mk 108, BR of 7.0 is somewhat too high.
ZTZ88B & ZTZ88A
GRB
9.0 → 9.3
I think these were forgotten, as well. The ZTZ88 family is equal to or superior to the T-69 IIG, which is also going up to 9.3, and has strong firepower and mobility that makes it superior to tanks like the T-55AM, for example
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