kinda depends on the range medium to long id say panther wins but in CQC the jumbo has good advantage but its not impossible to kill in CQC
give it 4 shafir 2s and put it at 9.3.
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so the Tigris which is basically unkillable to the 5.0 line up isnt a problem but the weaker jumbo is ?
Probably better yeah
So OUTSIDE of this SPECIFIC 1V1 MATCHUP, what is the panther bouncing that the Jumbo isnt that makes the Jumbo not well armored, but makes the Panther well armored, while overriding all the laundry list of things the Jumbo does better than the Panther
In the same way that you barrel snipe the tigris in your stabilized sherman, you barrel snipe the is3 in your stabilized jumbo
it’s more or less the exact same scenario but 1.0 br higher
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i never said it wasnt well armored i said the panther is slightly less armored than the jumbo
they are moving up together with most of the vehicles around, also its a much better round what are you complaining about?
yes flatpen is slightly lower, but angle pen is much better.
angle pen is more important than flatpen.
Ok, so when does the Panther win out versus the rest of the game versus the Jumbo that makes you think they should be the same br
good luck against it in a T34-85 cause if he angles right you cant pen him because of add on armor
Their BRs are set by their performance. Since they are both demonstrably and statistically doing fine at their current BRs, there is no reason to change either. Next.
panther if it faces any lower vehicles like the M4A1 76 can pen it everywhere while the 76 has to aim for its outer cheek and pray it can pen its same logic as shooting the jumbos machine gun port or lower side
not to mention the just a strong porsche tiger at 5.7 with more armor exists and is basically a german jumbo
Guess which plane will get a higher BR in the next update…
I get the feeling that the AI made these BR changes for them and no one even checked them properly.
If these changes make it into the game, the Kfir Canard and A-5C will be marked as EOL—Gaijin will just kill them off, just like they did with the F-104G/S etc.
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T25 6.3 to 5.7 Ground RB
The T25 needs to go down in BR badly. It has less reliable armor, worse gun handling, and worse mobility than the T-34-85 STP at the same BR. It’s also objectively worse than the early Tiger II, despite sharing the same BR. Heck the T1E1 (90) has the same gun, practically the same armor, and better mobility at a lower battle rating!
As it is right now, the T25 should be 5.7. If the transmission were fixed it could be 6.0, and with the stabilizer restored it could stay at 6.3, but right now 6.3 is absurd.
He 100 D-1
Changes:
- Air Realistic Battles: 1.7 → 2.3
- Give He 100 D-1’s missing gun option Mg 151/Mg 131 according to this bug report: He 100 missing gun option Mg 151/Mg 131
Reasoning: The He 100 D-1 at 1.7 is practically untouchable when flown by a pro player due to its high airspeed at such a low BR, even though it has a massive weak spot in the form of its liquid-cooling systems throughout the wings. I propose giving it the option to replace the MG 17 in the engine with a gun of up to 20 mm and balancing it with a higher BR.
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Have you ever considered this might be because I also used it to research the air tree, where it was notoriously one of the worst bombers in the whole game until recently?
Jumbo 76 is by far the best tank at 6.3. Much much better than any Panther. Exactly ZERO reasons for move to 6.0.
I suggest you play more than 5 battles before suggest that nosense.
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Oh so like everything else that faces the M4A1?
I mean, the Jumbo itself automatically railguns the M4A1? What are talking about here?
on what? thats not even true facing a panther
Yeah, they are going to be interesting weapons
(If added)
Uhm, its worse than that, its that they intentionally choose what to devalue