It was not clarified this was about sim/arcade.
totally agree, really unnecessary, specially for how slow they are+ type of projectile they use.
It really has no place at 14.3 though, it’s not much better than the J-10A which sits at 13.7
Vehicle: Pansir-S1
GRB BR: 12.0 → 12.3
Reason: The Pansir can guide 4 missiles at 4 different targets targets has extremely fast missiles that are immune to flares, chaff, LDIRCM, multipathing and it also has guns. Make it deserving of a higher BR. Its way better then most of the other SPAA at 12.0 like Elde 98, ITO and Tan-sam kai.
BMP-T/BMP-T72
11.0->12.3
given APDFS as its too survivable at its br even still against 11.0s and is very hard to kill
Ground Realistic
Vampire FB 5
8.0 → 7.7
While it can be powerful, it will only do so, if the enemy jets chooses to engage it in a turn fight. The thing is, at this BR, most people knows that turnfighting is not advantageous, so it happens in a blue moon. It doesn’t have the thrust to wight ratio to be able to fight like jets usually do. It is litterally a plane that was designed to fight in WW2.
it was at the very start
They are absolutely equivalent. The only thing the 15 has worse than the 27 is the fox-1.
t-50 is great
But t34s get 1 popped by every shot in the turret cheeks? And those are big cheeks
Which is massive, 6 R-27ER’s are not comparable to 4 sparrows (which can be rolled, literally)
Israel has no vehicles for Rank IX.
I’ve heard many players request that the Kfir C.10 Blk 60’s BR be increased, but that should only be possible if it obtains the I-Derby-ER and Python 4/5 missiles.
Whilst R-27ERs are cracked, that shouldnt justify the F-15A to be at a stupid BR
SU33 is better as it gets 8 of them
Air Realistic & Ground Realistic
Venom FB.4
8.7 → 8.3/8.0
It is similar to the Vampire FB 5, but is even more extreme, being a lot higher BR. Meaning that it can be powerful, it will only do so, if the enemy jets chooses to engage it in a turn fight. The thing is, at this BR, most people knows that turnfighting is not advantageous, so it happens in a blue moon. It doesn’t have the thrust to wight ratio to be able to fight like jets usually do.
Su-27 has to move up and 13.3 - 14.3 needs to be decompressed one notch to accomodate it. F-15A should stay 13.0 and is overpowered at 12.7
Su-27 can carry 27ERs and ETs with more missiles overall plus it has HMS.
no it shouldnt F15A should be 13.0
and the SU33/Su27 should be 13.3
900 was kinda warranted, it was quite good
Mk.10 was always fair but never excellent
May i say look here, Mk.10 could get 92 more HP
BOTH would get a better Shell (L23A1) (Base L23 is fake anyway)
Comparison


BOTH could get a 1.5s reduction in reload
Yep, and even at 13.0, F-15A could be considered under BRed