For everyone, who still thinks, that 2S38 is OP on 10.3:
This is a self-propelled low mobility ammunition rack made of cardboard without any crew protection.
Shell in auto-loader makes any return fire fatal to 2S38.
And now look how well protected PUMA is with its legendary indestructible turret.
So we have nothing outstanding except raw high penetration but without the possibility of implementing it properly due to no survivability and not working as it should unmanned turret with huge shell in auto-loader inside. 2S38 requires a lot of luck and a combination of circumstances to do something. Its not OP, its not even great at 10.3.
Its mediocre in current game realities. Could be toxic - yes but in rare situations. Maybe it was really good many years ago, but now there is a lot of light tanks much better in all parameters except penetration. Even SPAAs today perform better. Apart from good armor penetration, this tank has nothing, let’s be honest. I`m not talking about shell in auto-loader just in turret, making this umnanned turret useless and extremely vulnerable.
Noone is saying its OP or good because it’s too survivable. That used to be the case but nowadays its rather easy to take out as one should be able to. You are just arguing around this point for the sake of arguing.
What makes the 2S38 good and one of the better vehicles at its BR and above is because it’s one / if not the best multi role vehicles in-game. 148 ready rack ammo with good pen APFSDS and high velocity HEVT with high res thermals and IRST. The vehicles most similar to it are the HSTV-L, RDF/LT and Otomatic. All of which have way less ammo/ready rack ammo and only expand a little bit on armor and mobility. And they are from +1.0 to +1.7 BR higher BRed.
I think the 2S38 is fine now at 10.7 BUT there are points to be made why the others are soo much higher without any major differences that justify the BR gap.
Don’t even reply to such a silly post. He thinks the Maus should see the likes of Object 279 in an uptier. What a joke. I have to babysit Maus all day long with Germany 7.0. Most the time you don’t need HEAT-FS to take them out, they just get themselves bombed (unless I shoot down the CAS in Flakpanzer).
Why too much? Its just a fat T-38-85 at a higher level. Just slightly better mobility, but armor is weak. Huge drivers hatch and weak turrets armor as you said. And tbh, opponents just ignore front plate and aim at the drivers hatch. T-34-85 STP on 6.3 with stabilizer feels better than T-44 FM.
Its wild honestly, like im playing the TT Netz rn and its just torture. i feel like a defenseless kid in Gaza with how i just cant defend my self when my max engagement is sub 4km. But dont worry i have 40g missiles that pull its 40gs straight to the first flare they see
when compared to the 12.3 F16A it makes sense, since the Pythons 3 are quite a bit better than the aim9L.
Though with the F15As moving down to 12.7 this makes zero sense now… they could just… you know… decompress high-top tier as a whole to achieve some sort of felt technological advancement instead of lumping everything together.
I’d propose moving all or at least some of them FnF helis a bit down, as it’s being paired with helis that outrange them and overpower them with either their missile range or defense, being the Mi-28NM impossible to kill unless you have a radar missile due to the forcefield-like LDIRCM. And well, other helis are either very agile or too far away. Whilst these ‘old’ helis have a maximum range of 8km and its missiles are either slow (Spikes) or haven’t got enough explosive charge to reliably kill a tank.
