Char 25t too ,its better than the TO90 but still not exactly 8.0 material in my honest opinion
it had it for quie a long time, to be honest on long range maps it is quite brokent for a 8.0, as you also have the 16x zoom of the optics
Nothing is worse than the T-90M, a buddy and I did some testing since all the Soviet light tanks past 7.0 are now egregiously loud, they can be heard at 250 meters easily.
But the T-90M for some unknown reason can be heard as far as 310~ meters.
T-80s were 220~
While the abrams was 190, and Leo2a7v was 150~
All to say, somehow the T-90M is now the loudest tank…
If youre correct than thats…interesting because shouldnt the Abrams be the loudest?
the heat of the amx 30 is worse than the the dm12 it gets less tnte and it is slower
Must’ve got it after I spaded it then. I’ll have to go check to see if I need to re-spade it.
And tbh I generally guess ranges quite well, unless it’s like 1200 meters+ I don’t use LRFs
Fair enough
You can front pen it (Leo 1) with the pretty much any autocannon APDS by hitting the Mantlet right in front of the gunner :shrug:
I find it pretty reliable
Rarden apds from 500m
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No, the abrams would be loudest within 80-100 meters, but the turbines are typically quieter because of their sound waves. Same with the T-80s
But a drastic difference between the Leo2a7v and T-90M makes no sense.
Our data was taken on soft terrain btw. Not that I think it matters.
But the loudest light tank is now the 2s38, followed closely by the bmd4s, BMPs, etc.
2s38 was 250 meters, with the others being 245 meters.
You can hear their tracks so loudly, in fact, I had to stop playing Ussr at 10.7 because the 2s38 was so loud it was giving me head aches when my team drove by.
Something has to be done about the mig29’s, the flight model and their weaponary
Tbh the rarden is odd.
I went into great depth about the btr-80A vs the Fox, and found one of two things:
- The Rarden overperforms
- The btr-80a’s gun underpreforms
You can do it with Russian APDS lmao, do you even read? You just need more that 65mm of pen
I gave a rarden screen shot cause that was what is in my line up
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You clearly didn’t get the point.
But thanks for saying I don’t read. Very toxic.
If the F-15 can go down to 12.7, then why cant the F-14b go down, or get at least get 9ms at 13.0? or even the F-14a go to 12.3 cause the F-15 is NOT gonna be balanced at 12.7 with IRCCM missiles and 240cm.
If the F-15 can do down, why not let the JAS39-A go down as well, as it has less missiles, or the Mirage 4000, as it has fewer and less superior Fox-1s? Balancing makes no sense with this change.
This might be even worse than letting the Su-30mkk and Su-30mk2 stay at 13.3
Also side note, F-104s asa should go down, it suffers at 12.0
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they still have the pre demarre stats, iirc only apds that still have these, they should be somewhere in betewen the russian 30mm apds and the bushmaster apds
Vehicles all M113A1 TOW missile carriers, UDES 33 and equivalents(exposed gunner)
BR lowered to 8.0 or able to fire on the move
they are all niche vehicles that only excel on some maps with the fact that that cant fire on the move makes them very difficult to use in urban and close range maps
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Yay even longer grind thank you gaijin
Vehicle: non fox 3 mig29’s
Gamemode: air realistic
BR Change: 12.7 → 12.7
Reason: with the f15’s going down to 12.7, the mig 29’s should recieve their r73’s at 12.7, either with or without the r-27er’s and have their fligt models buffed
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F-15s shouldn’t have went down to begin with 😭
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Go to sleep. It’s a lawful order
Do it now. Before the Fox starts to appear and torment you.
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