Ground RB/ SB
AMX 50 (TO90/930) 8.0 > 7.7 (being slightly faster, with less armor and penetration than the somua, with a APHE round, it never made sense to move this to 8.0 after its battlepass ended, as 8.0 and up it struggles to fight a lot of vehicles if they’re stabilized, well armored, etc.)
I believe ever since it was added.
To a degree… 35mm APHE still mauls them.
I wouldn’t really rely on its armour 😅
Im pretty sure you can hear all of them across the whole map,louder than an abrams somehow
But what doesn’t 35mm APHE maul?
200mm flat. Anything at 7.3 can penetrate that. The transmission cover is only armored by flat 120mm.
Ho-Ri Production is also not 6.7, and the Prototype is quite bad.
Something has to be done about the mig29’s.
Their flight model has to be fixed
All of them should be able to carry r73’s
And the mig 29G should not be the same br as the su27 or su33
So either the mig29 with r60’s should be moved down to 12.3, or they should have r73’s at 12.7
Char 25t too ,its better than the TO90 but still not exactly 8.0 material in my honest opinion
it had it for quie a long time, to be honest on long range maps it is quite brokent for a 8.0, as you also have the 16x zoom of the optics
Nothing is worse than the T-90M, a buddy and I did some testing since all the Soviet light tanks past 7.0 are now egregiously loud, they can be heard at 250 meters easily.
But the T-90M for some unknown reason can be heard as far as 310~ meters.
T-80s were 220~
While the abrams was 190, and Leo2a7v was 150~
All to say, somehow the T-90M is now the loudest tank…
If youre correct than thats…interesting because shouldnt the Abrams be the loudest?
the heat of the amx 30 is worse than the the dm12 it gets less tnte and it is slower
Must’ve got it after I spaded it then. I’ll have to go check to see if I need to re-spade it.
And tbh I generally guess ranges quite well, unless it’s like 1200 meters+ I don’t use LRFs
Fair enough
You can front pen it (Leo 1) with the pretty much any autocannon APDS by hitting the Mantlet right in front of the gunner :shrug:
I find it pretty reliable
No, the abrams would be loudest within 80-100 meters, but the turbines are typically quieter because of their sound waves. Same with the T-80s
But a drastic difference between the Leo2a7v and T-90M makes no sense.
Our data was taken on soft terrain btw. Not that I think it matters.
But the loudest light tank is now the 2s38, followed closely by the bmd4s, BMPs, etc.
2s38 was 250 meters, with the others being 245 meters.
You can hear their tracks so loudly, in fact, I had to stop playing Ussr at 10.7 because the 2s38 was so loud it was giving me head aches when my team drove by.
Something has to be done about the mig29’s, the flight model and their weaponary
Tbh the rarden is odd.
I went into great depth about the btr-80A vs the Fox, and found one of two things:
You can do it with Russian APDS lmao, do you even read? You just need more that 65mm of pen
I gave a rarden screen shot cause that was what is in my line up
You clearly didn’t get the point.
But thanks for saying I don’t read. Very toxic.
If the F-15 can go down to 12.7, then why cant the F-14b go down, or get at least get 9ms at 13.0? or even the F-14a go to 12.3 cause the F-15 is NOT gonna be balanced at 12.7 with IRCCM missiles and 240cm.
If the F-15 can do down, why not let the JAS39-A go down as well, as it has less missiles, or the Mirage 4000, as it has fewer and less superior Fox-1s? Balancing makes no sense with this change.
This might be even worse than letting the Su-30mkk and Su-30mk2 stay at 13.3
Also side note, F-104s asa should go down, it suffers at 12.0