Brainwashed? No. That’s you and Morvran, and thanks to your constant wanting of Russian nerfs, you’re just propelling me to be against anything Uk. Funny, you make the monsters you dislike
any competent player can play T-80UD to its strengths as well
Average forum experience
I do not agree. It cannot BVR effectively because it is slow to climb compared to contemporaries.
Of course, but suggestions must be made one at a time and I haven’t suggested this myself because it has already been suggested, suggestions I think I liked.
Well, I haven’t played it but it’s insanely strong in ground RB. Not sure how it compares to the J-10C in Air RB.
Like what?
T-80UD Tank RB 10.3 → 10.7 its beyond me how this tank is still at the BR it sits at currently. A lot stronger than its peers on the BR and now with the 6 second reload even more broken than before with the only thing that this tank is missing being the TVD. It has no business meeting the 9.3 that are in its BR range where some of them even struggle to pen its weakspots
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Yup, seen too many nukes from those Gepard likes walking my team.
le humble statshark:
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If you’re not sure how it compares to Gripen E in Air RB, then why would you make a suggestion? You’re saying J-10C is worse than Gripen E (by suggesting it be 14.0) and then now saying you don’t know how it compares to Gripen E
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T-80B, which is a flat out upgrade over the T-80UD at 10.7:
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A5C Air RB 10.7 → 10.3 it should go back from where it came from. Basically every plane at 10.7 is stronger than the A5C, especially considering that things like the Mig 21 SMT and MF are sitting at 10.3, which makes this even more questionable. Also since a few patches, you can not kill a base with 2 napalm bombs anymore, which means that this plane has lost quite some power in terms of grinding
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I was with you until you said “Ajax to 10.7” that thing is a steaming pile of mess at its current BR and increasing it would only make it worse.
Should, but we both know that’s never happening lol
Yall are crazy.
T-55A is no better than an m60 and has the same armor as a T-54 and arguably worse turret armor.
Obj.906 can literally be 7.62d to death, and is loud as hell now.
T-55AMD-1 and the T-62-M are bad as is, making them 9.3 makes 0 sense…?
Olifant is fine where it is.
Vickers is fine where it is.
Turm 3 can be 9.0 agreed ✅
Fv4005, and T32s reloads are fine.
All those 6.7s heavies for USA / Germany need to be 7.0
Because others can make their own suggestions.
Why are you complaining that I made a single suggestion without taking everything into account? The whole point of this thread is to make single suggestions for single vehicles to get BR changes.
I can be certain it isn’t enough of an improvement over the predecessor to warrant 2 steps increase.
I can also say for certain that it’s nowhere near good enough to be 1 step below AESA Typhoons, Rafales and Su-30SM2.
What more do I need to know?
me omw to change nation to farm with the same vehicle lmao
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There is literally no reason to nerf this. It clearly performs awfully, barely being above a 1.0 KDr
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34 million games played.
It’s above average considering the average KPS of war thunder players is ~0.85.
One of the problem is not that you didn’t make suggestion for other vehicles, the problem is not making adequate comparisons. You’re making a comparison to 14.7 vehicles such as the Rafale and Su-30SM2, but do not compare it to the 14.0 vehicles that you want it placed with or 14.3 vehicles it will be placed under.
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I agree in general, but gaijin has stated multiple times that premium vehicles have privileges vs TT versions - so i considered this.