Hard disagree if the BMD-4 exists at 9.7 with better missile reload and mobility while being a smaller profile.
My guy there’s three of us playing Russia 4.7 and we’re going well over 2 to 1 per game.
It’s not as if I’m playing with any great skill (I’ve literally had a 234/2 less than 25 metres in front of me, that I wasn’t aware of until he shot me) and errrr…
Leave 2S38 and T-80UD at 10.3 BR:
2S38 – this vehicle is already struggling at 10.3. It has very poor survivability (almost no armor, large profile, 3-man crew) and gets destroyed very quickly by any return fire. The post-penetration damage of the 57 mm gun is already insufficient against most MBTs despite its high rate of fire — not to mention large wheeled light vehicles with a lot of empty space inside, where even weak spot hits often don’t guarantee a kill. As a result, flanking becomes almost the only viable tactic, but even then 2S38 doesn’t have great mobility due to its high weight and not very powerful engine. It also can’t be considered a proper SPAA, since it lacks radar tracking and is not very effective against ATGM helicopters or jets using TV-guided weapons. Overall, the vehicle is very situational, and against experienced players its effectiveness is quite low.
T-80UD – moving this tank to 10.7 is also questionable. At this BR, thermal sights are basically standard, and T-80UD doesn’t have them, which is a major disadvantage in long-range and night engagements. The −4 km/h reverse speed makes T-80UD an easy target and heavily punishes any positioning mistake. Compared to other 10.7 MBTs like Leopard 2A4 or M1 Abrams, the turret traverse and gun elevation feel noticeably slow, and the gun depression isn’t great either, which further limits the tank in close combat and uneven terrain.
Ragebait used to be believable
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sure thing, the matchmaker is fine from it
I’m just pointing out how these tanks actually perform in RB, not trying to bait anyone.
Popularity doesn’t equal balance.
Popularity like this usually indicates imbalance actually.
Not a reason
I suggest you to watch some tutorials.
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So what is yourr metric, because by normal people’s metrics (i.e. how it plays) it looks pretty good
does anyone have an idea of when this will go live? Do i have time to grind the gripen e with my draken tomorrow.
Just because win-rate is higher doesn’t mean these tanks are strong - in real RB matches they get punished fast by experienced players.
give it 1 or 2 weeks. There will be changes and additions to the list
My guy, that is mostly what it means.
These vehicles don’t have a high winrate because so many experienced players are playing them. These aren’t French, Italian or Israeli vehicles.
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You get time to grind stuff after a tree restructure for a week or two
So… F-15E staying at 14.0 than? since they didn’t bother to change the BR on that thing apparently for some reason? Not that I’m complaining just curious that’s all.
It’s pretty simple, you’re always going to preform better if you’re a more experienced player. Also BVV_d mentioned this in the past is they won’t change something because a few players are doing well in it, though this was said a couple years ago because a few players managed to get a vehicle changed and Gaijin saw this.
If it does not have a BR change listed, chances are it will not be moving.