Rank VIII → VII (where it currently sits)
BR: 12.3 → 11.7
As of right now, the VT4 is a very weird tank in the tech tree that doesnt feel like it has any point of being played over any tank at 12.3 and honestly even when compared to the Al Khaled it doesnt really offer anything over that tank, therefore i would suggest to make it go down in BR to 11.7 in order to make it fit into that nice Chinese lineup on that BR where if a player is not owning the Al Khaled it would offer a tradeoff to the MBT 2000, as you are losing mobility but therefore gaining better optics and a bit of reload
The British Typhoons are after the Tornado F.3 Late though? A full BR above it at 14.3 and now 14.7.
The Phantom FGR.2 should get its Aim-9Ls so it can actually justify being at 12.0 and the FG.1 should move down to 11.7.
German WW2 lineup and the 8.0 bracket really need some relief (BRs and rank placement). Winrates are absymal on these BR brackets, indicating too high BRs.
Kfir C7 air rb12.0 → 11.7 another completely overtiered plane due to the pythons. 11.7 would also allow for a logical progression from the canard over the kfir c2 (suggested in another comment) to the C7
Kfir C2 Air RB 11.7 → 11.3 would allow for a logical progression down from the C7 to the canard. The C2 is currently completely overtiered for it only having 2 missiles.
Kurnass 2000 Air RB 12.3 → 12.0 maybe even 11.7 completely overtiered plane that has no business being at that high of a BR currently without fox 1 especially since in 8/10 battles you face into Fox 3 capable planes. Sure the pythons are nice but that should not put it tho where it sits currently
If you are going to remove APDS from these 2 SPAA, then it should be removed from all 7.7 - 8.7 SPAAs. These 2 listed are not the problem specifically, its all SPAA with 25-35mm guns. Like why only these 2? Those are not even worse, it’s the gepards and XMs.
Mirage 2000D-RMV Air RB 12.7 → 12.3 logical step down from the M2KCs5 and is weaker than the M2KCs4 but still 12.7 is completely overtiered. Or consider giving it either 2 additional Magic 2 or add the ahistorical load out with the Mica EM from the dev server back and bump it to 13.7
Ah you were talking about line placement, I misunderstood.
In which case that is fine, there are no South African aircraft that can go after the Jas39C because that is our currently active serving fighter plane. The only thing that can happen is seeing the Cheetah C coming in at either 13.0 or 13.3 with the Mirage IIICZ coming in at 10.3/10.7.
The Indian planes can come and fill in after the Harriers or the Hornets.
yes sorry i did mean line placement as this would make sense as the typhoons replaced the tornados f3. i mean yea the indians could go over with the harriers and such, but would be prefer them to be in that line with the south african aircraft as you stated the jas39c is as good as it gets for that nation, sound we could get the indian su30 as that lines top tier
These SPAAs are losing apds because it’s in their main belt
Not a secondary self-defense belt like Gepard and other 35mm AAs
There’s a large difference between a belt of circa. 400 rounds of more with apds in it (as is the case with falcon) and a belt with just 20 per gun of full apds (Gepard and other 35mm AAs)
I’d imagine Falcon also losing it cause it simply never used it irl. Its not even mentioned that it was planned to use it.
It just got added cause APDS is a theretical option for this kind of guns. Since it caused that much mayhem, the best way is to remove it. Other SPAA like the Gepard + its clones historically and to this day used/use APDS. So no way to remove it.
