Alright then, makes sense. It just seemed weird to me without the “-”
I play this tank in every full uptier, and it seems like I’m doing just fine. It can move around the map very quickly, and while 6.5s reload is not great, it’s also not terrible :p
At 4.3 it would surely need reload buff. At 4.0 it would do just fine, I mean, I’m horrible with light tanks but in M24 I just feel “in control”.
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Well if anything, I think the AMX-13 FL11 is grossly overtiered at 4.3, being worse than the M24 in effectively every regard except having the same round and reload.
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thats a mk11
its the latter
Tunguska has no play there and can only try to intercept missiles until it runs out of ammo.
If you see it hiding just go for other tanks, which will make interception even harder if he decides to emerge behind cover.
Tunguska struggles to hit a strike drone at around 8km, so launching from that range should be perfectly safe.
You aren’t necessary in danger from that plane only, if you know what I mean.
You’re locked inside a fairly small map with who knows how many things around that are perfectly aware of your presence, as you’ve just fired half a dozen missiles from the general area and/or spammed your cannon as a lunatic.
It doesn’t take much to get clapped by someone aware in his HE-VT slinger with air tracking.
Different AAs are also a threat, especially something like Strela that’s small and will never trigger your RWR.
You’d be shooting at stuff ~2-3km away anways.
I just tested it at about 9700m of range.
2S6’s missile reached it’s target in ~18.2s and OSA took ~21.5s which is around 3-ish seconds of difference. I’d say most of that difference comes from different launch mechanics, not the actual average missile speed.
Also, keep in mind this was the absolute best case scenario for 2S6 as missiles just flew straight for the entirety of their flight time. If you start pulling, 2S6’s missile just turns into a slug very quickly and grows a mind of it’s own, due to the fact it’s motor burns out basically immediately after launch.
For any semi-aware pilot OSA is a much bigger threat than 2S6 past 5km, I have no doubts about this.
They should, unless they decide to not die from several direct hits from your guns or missiles.
1.(TRB) Object 435 8.7 > 9.0 — restore the tank’s previous BR, as it has slow horizontal and vertical guidance drives and no armor.
2.(TRB) T-64B 10.3 > 10.0 — add a TPN-1-TPV thermal vision device to the T-64BV modification.
Note: All Soviet MBTs of the 7th rank are equipped with a thermal vision device.
sorry, but it has much better missles and better Fperfomance than mig21smt.
I have played ALOT of both planes, and difference is huge.
Yeah, I was just trying to say that it got up to 9.0 with what’s basically a comparable round to L7 APDS, just reskinned into a dart.
T-55AM-1 also isn’t particularly armored against things found at 9.0, which is why I said it’s protection advantage is mostly there against autocannons. LRF and smokes are also a pro.
Other than that, it’s just Turm III all along, so it going up to 9.0 wouldn’t be anything special.
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Suggestion:
120S to 10.0 from 10.3
Case basis:
TTD going to 10.0 with better mobility, trolly armor
Sabra Mk.1 at 10.0 as well with an equivalent shell, better mobility, worse armor.
if you folder the F-18A and the F-18C late in the american tech tree, the F-18s in the british tech tree, the F-16D Barak II and the F-16I Sufa as well as the Kurnass 200 and the Baz in the israeli tech tree and the F-15J and the F-15J(M) for japan you should also folder the the Su-27 with the Su-27SM and/or the Mig-29 (9-12) with the Mif-29SMT fot the soviets/russians.
and can you please specify how many rank VIII vehicles are needed to unlock rank IX. (always 5, but 4 for italy?)
F-14B with 9Ms
13.3
Air RB.
Coincidentally that’s the same exact BR the F-14D will be.
F-14D with AIM-120s cause thats the one that did get a case study for adaptation and the 14A already had tested the AIM-120 would make the F-14B kinda sad
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That’s an F-14A that would have AIM-120s.
In those cases, yes the Tunguska may not be the most ideal, though intercepting mavericks given that amount of time shouldn’t be hard at all.
Mavericks are a lot more difficult to deal with when they have been launched from much closer.
If you so happen to be killed by enemy tanks from your spawn / near your spawn then it’s bad map design and / or your teammates failing you.
From my experience, if that does ever happen it’s usually the latter.
I mean that’s always a case, though from my experience in the Su-25T, it’s rarely the case.
Strelas spawning in immediately after dying to CAS is something that does happen quite often, though.
Not all the time.
Helicopters tend to stay around 4km/5km.
It’s not just the range but also how quickly it gets there.
Yes, OSA is a bigger threat at range… but only by so much.
~21.5s in a straight line to get to a target spamming mavericks from 10km away sounds awful.
You’re better off not even shooting at it.
And relying on teammates to protect you seems very inconsistent.
100%
They need to fix drone hitboxes because they often like to survive proxy from AAMs.
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I agree with you here.
I mean it could probably be fine there, though 8.7 seems reasonable to me too.
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It really is such a good list gaijin should be taking notes ;D