The APDS belt isn’t even realistic/historical for the Falcon, not sure about the AMX-30 S DCA
It’s better for the Falcon to not have APDS, so it (hopefully) can go down in BR and not be a non-radar SPAAG at 8.3
Consider decomposing the ground BR from 7.3 to 8.7, which is a complete mess, with tanks fully equipped with laser rangefinders already in 7.7 (PZH2000) and in 8.0 several tanks like the T54 and its variants, where many don’t even have stabilization or rangefinders, but the Chinese variants are in the same BR, already counting all the modernization.
This BR is very important because it is a transition between eras in several nations, and often playing with something from 7.0 that gets uptier is completely frustrating.
TBH the A-7K should be 10.7 not even 11.0 as its just a faster but worse at everything else A-10A Late in ARB. As someone who has been playing it to try and spade and other 11.0 jets. 11.0 is just up tier game after game vs prem BR jets.
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nono i don’t hate both vehicles because i don’t have them xD
If the Falcon’s APDS is being removed then the proper rounds need to be added to the vehicle. It should be equipped with an APIC-T round which based on the in game calculation would have around 98 mm of pen. It should not have a SAP round. Its belt composition should be APHEI / APIC-T / APHEI / HEI. I submitted the bug report already with historical sources and the in game calculation using the current pen calculator.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CittQLju2OFr
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Honestly. At this point. With the AHMk1, it needs something to justify taking the entire 11.7 lineup to 12.0 to actually use it. Something has got to give, either a BR drop with or without a nerf or a decent buff of some description
GROUND
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M1 Abrams / M1 KVT (10.7)
Add M833 Round. -
CRV Block 2 10.7 → 10.3
Spikes are just unusable. -
M3A3 Bradley 10.0 → 9.7
About time… -
BMPT / BMPT-72 11.3 → 12.0
This thing is unkillable, even from the sides it will stop an apfsds because magic. -
Pantsir-S1 12.0 → 12.3
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2S38 10.3 → 11.0
No need to mention why.
AIR
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AV8B (NA) 11.3/11.7 → 11.0
Both Air and Ground RB, simply mediocre even for a ground strike platform at such BR. -
P-51D-30 5.0 → 4.7
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F8F-1 Bearcat 4.7 → 5.0
This thing is just broken at such low BR
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Lmao CRV isn’t the worst 10.7 spike launcher lol
M26 pershing，M26A1
Gamemode: Ground Arcade & Realistic
BR Change: 6.7 -----> 6.3*
Reason: Comparing with any improved Pershing（T26E5,T26E1-1,M26E1），M26 has worst armor and armament
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Isn’t Vilkas worse?
(Air RB) F-14B [13.0 → 12.7]
Reason:
Underperforming aircraft without 9Ms on its current battle rating. Su-27 wins against it in every possible way.
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LOL NOT EVEN CLOSE Vilkas is alright at best, remote control turret ability to lock on to aircraft ect ect imo vilkas is def one of the better ones
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While that would definitely end up leaving the Falcon at 8.3, at least that would make it realistic (and probably even more deadly lol)
Ahahahaha that shit is hilarious, missile goes for the next missile. Honestly you would’ve been better dropping the lock and relocking, it would’ve negated this problem.
Vehicle: T-35
Gamemode: Ground Arcade
BR Change: 1.3 -----> 2.0 or 2.3
Reason: Compared to the T-28 the only downside is a slightly lower speed while still having a similar armor layout and more crew (+4) and an additional cannon that can face forward. This allows it to perform really well since at it’s current BR range it allows the additional cannon to penetrate most of the tank that it can face while keeping the main gun loaded for a follow up shot.
Like what? The dutch Ah-64D is at 11.7 and it’s nearly identical to the US Ah-64D, the only difference is the lack of radar. So unless you’re saying that having a radar is a game changer, then it won’t change much.
Hellfire-only platforms over 11.3 are over BR’d to begin with.
There are other BR changes that needs to be done. One for example being the Mi-28A. I have no idea why that thing is at 11.0. It’s the same BR as the AH-1W is also at the same BR
It wouldn’t…
As mentioned previously, hellfires are extremely unreliable at range (5ish km) where as the Vikhrs can reach 8km easily and could possibly reach to 10km (in most cases, it does). Because of Beam riding, you could bypass smoke, switch targets easily, and be more accurate. In addition having proxy fuse agms allows you to take out helis/planes and can proxy SAMs with ease.
Barely no-one will use the JAGM-MR above 8km let alone 10km. It take 30 seconds to hit a 8km target and 40 to hit a 10km target. It is not profitable nor a good tactic to use JAGMs at that range.
The JAGM-MR isn’t good because of it’s range, it’s good because of it’s motor. It has a sustainer meaning that it could maintain speed which allows it to be accurate with range. Something the hellfire cannot do
With all this being said, you cannot say to me with a straight face that the Ka52 and Ah-64D is balanced at the same BR. If you wanted to bring the Ka52 up to 12.3, then I’ll be okay with that but these two cannot be the same BR
Why is Grippen A still 12.0 in TRB?
And is on the same br as SU-27?
Grippen must be moved to 12.3
This might make no change in TRB, but in squadron 8vs8 battles, people just take 4 grippens and that’s a win.
No single jet can give the same performance on that BR
(Air RB) F-14A [12.7 → 12.3]
Reason:
Weak performance in comparison with F-15A that will be downgraded to 12.7. Some people can say that phoenixes is menace to 11.3 aircraft - partially yes, against inexperienced players, but in still can be dodged successfully.
We need more decompression in general.
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It has terrible air to air besides Su-27 is great as CAP love my su
as i said earlier my post was obvious bait i dont know why you’re eating it so much
and i cant see a reason to move it down by 1.3 brs… move it to 7.7 and you’re getting games with props. leave it at 8.0 and you can see some pretty fast jets. i leave tu4s alone at the beginning of games myself but thats beside the point
in what world is the .50 bad