Ive played them a good few times since and the mobility is not bad at all.
people were used to a very heavy tank traversing maps almost like a light at times
see yourself out
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T-80UD BR：10.3 to 10.7
it is much better than T-72B，better sight better armor better mobility and better reload. now you decide move T-64B to 10.3，T-80UD is not suitable to share same BR with it.
T-72B3 keep it 11.7
it is just a least armored T-90M，anyway if T-72B3A still in 12.3，T-72B3 should not be changed，the APS doesn’t worth a total 1.0 BR higher，and 10.3 tanks will suffer to fight against T-72B3 which have good armor，top ter APFSDS and good mobility.
BMPT BR：11.3 to 11.7 and give it 3UBR11 APFSDS belt.
BMPT have top ter mobility and armor with fast shooting autocanon and ATGM，it doesn’t need to reload and can shoot everything until they die or disabled，its BR should be higher，then APFSDS belt can be added.
I’d agree with a 9.7 BR, but not 9.3
Currently the only plane with laser guided A2G weapons with a lower BR than the F-117 is the Su-17M2 at 9.7 and that thing has no countermeasures either
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its nuts for a stealth bomber to be able to fly in a match where it couldnt even see early IR SAMs.
it would be lower than Ozelot lol
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Mode: Ground Realistic Battle
Vehicle: Chieftain Mk10 → Chieftain Mk11
BR Change: 9.0 > 9.3
Reasoning: Change the Mk10 to the Mk11 so it can have thermals and be actually competitive at 9.3
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I will asmit 9.3 was a bit too much of an exaggeration, i omly really saw it as a way to not be uptiered to 10.7, but 9.7 i think would be fair for it
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Keep apds belt for Falcon and amx30 DCA!
Totally unnecessary to delete the interesting belt.
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You’d have to move a bunch of other helis down as well, so that’s a no
That would warrant a BR increase. 16km range is still 16km range, even if it’s just SAL.
The APDS belt isn’t even realistic/historical for the Falcon, not sure about the AMX-30 S DCA
It’s better for the Falcon to not have APDS, so it (hopefully) can go down in BR and not be a non-radar SPAAG at 8.3
Consider decomposing the ground BR from 7.3 to 8.7, which is a complete mess, with tanks fully equipped with laser rangefinders already in 7.7 (PZH2000) and in 8.0 several tanks like the T54 and its variants, where many don’t even have stabilization or rangefinders, but the Chinese variants are in the same BR, already counting all the modernization.
This BR is very important because it is a transition between eras in several nations, and often playing with something from 7.0 that gets uptier is completely frustrating.
TBH the A-7K should be 10.7 not even 11.0 as its just a faster but worse at everything else A-10A Late in ARB. As someone who has been playing it to try and spade and other 11.0 jets. 11.0 is just up tier game after game vs prem BR jets.
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nono i don’t hate both vehicles because i don’t have them xD
If the Falcon’s APDS is being removed then the proper rounds need to be added to the vehicle. It should be equipped with an APIC-T round which based on the in game calculation would have around 98 mm of pen. It should not have a SAP round. Its belt composition should be APHEI / APIC-T / APHEI / HEI. I submitted the bug report already with historical sources and the in game calculation using the current pen calculator.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CittQLju2OFr
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Honestly. At this point. With the AHMk1, it needs something to justify taking the entire 11.7 lineup to 12.0 to actually use it. Something has got to give, either a BR drop with or without a nerf or a decent buff of some description
GROUND
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M1 Abrams / M1 KVT (10.7)
Add M833 Round. -
CRV Block 2 10.7 → 10.3
Spikes are just unusable. -
M3A3 Bradley 10.0 → 9.7
About time… -
BMPT / BMPT-72 11.3 → 12.0
This thing is unkillable, even from the sides it will stop an apfsds because magic. -
Pantsir-S1 12.0 → 12.3
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2S38 10.3 → 11.0
No need to mention why.
AIR
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AV8B (NA) 11.3/11.7 → 11.0
Both Air and Ground RB, simply mediocre even for a ground strike platform at such BR. -
P-51D-30 5.0 → 4.7
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F8F-1 Bearcat 4.7 → 5.0
This thing is just broken at such low BR
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Lmao CRV isn’t the worst 10.7 spike launcher lol
M26 pershing，M26A1
Gamemode: Ground Arcade & Realistic
BR Change: 6.7 -----> 6.3*
Reason: Comparing with any improved Pershing（T26E5,T26E1-1,M26E1），M26 has worst armor and armament
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Isn’t Vilkas worse?
(Air RB) F-14B [13.0 → 12.7]
Reason:
Underperforming aircraft without 9Ms on its current battle rating. Su-27 wins against it in every possible way.
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