Yeah, and Phantom FGR2 and FG1 being 10.7 whilst the F4J(UK) which is at best equal if not slightly worse is 11.3 is the main one that comes to mind for me.
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Yeah, especially since they never gave the junk the aim7f.
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Well, let’s start:
-Add a ZTZ-59D, that one actually has a two plane stab and TVD
-the ZTZ-88A is more advanced than the B in the fact that it also has TVD
-move all the all aspect missile busses to a higher BR, increase max air BR to 12.7 too
-obligatory no flares and aam for Q-5L still ( and higher BR)?
Move TURMS and 2S38 to 10.3, 9.0s r not having a good time pls.
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Yeah, these being so low makes no sense. I havent seen either struggle much in higher tiers. even see them do fairly well in full uptiers when im in an 11.3 line up
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If the AH1Z get’s uptiered, I have a suggestion that it should get the or the AGm114N or AGM114K-3 just like the one on the AH64D, if possible, because the AH1Z never served with AGM114B.
AH-1Z : 11.0- 11.7.
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On what earth developers thinks Israel Netz is equal to other 12.3’s?
That thing has only Ir missiles which doesnt have any sort of Irccm capabilities while other 12.3’s have much better armament for both ground and air.
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TURMS is pretty bad compared to M1 or Leo 2A4.
Agree regarding 2S38.
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Muh muh good stats lmao
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Meanwhile F-16AJ, laughs at the corner.
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I mean, it won’t change much for it but in the long run…
No it does not.
Turms have better firepower and superior optics while other two has better mobility and flexibility.
All of them counters each other.
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I am so happy that the tigers and Panthers are going up, and that the Char25t gets is proper reload.
I don’t notice any bad changes, which is different than past BR changes.
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Yea, another day another stupid decisions from Gaijin.
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Nah, top tier is about mobility; something none of the T-72s has. 3BM42 and 2 Gen Thermals don’t compensate the slow reaction times.
T-80B is best soviet MBT of the 10.0-10.7 bracket.
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Q: How do you prove that Gaijin has never played with a vehicle he made?
A: They think that T129,AH6M should be in the same BR as A129CBT
Why does Gaijin always forget some vehicles in every BR change?
Tiger IIP goes to 6.7, but what about tiger IIH?
692G goes to 9.0, so what about OBJ279 and T55AMD?
Could it be that the combat efficiency of the T55AM T55AMD 279 is the same as the 8.7 T62 Chieftain MK3 AMX30B2?
And the Z9WA, which only has 8 rounds of 4km range ATGMs or AAMs, you have to put it at 10.7. Well, let’s look at another helicopter for 11.0, AH64DJP, 16 rounds of 8 km range ATGMs + 4 rounds of AAMs, mi-28m 16 rounds 6 km range ATGMs. Do developers really carefully evaluate the performance of each vehicle compared to other vehicles of the same br? Or just thinking “oh I think this vehicle should be targeted, let’s give it br+0.3”
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Yet none of those tanks are top tier, not to mention what you’re claiming is also untrue.
Current map designs allows both sides to perform almost equally in the same hands.
3Bm42 allows you to basically lolpen abrams and Leopards while 2 of them cant do the same, also superior optics are always provides better experience in long range engagements.
Try harder.
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Most of these are pretty good! Just a few discrepancies I’d like to put out there.
Tiger 2P goes to 6.7, but the Tiger 2H does not
–Why? The mantlet buff on the 2H makes it a significantly stronger vehicle.
Panther A and G go up, but the Panther D and VK do not
–Again, this is inconsistent. These should be moving up .3 as well.
AMX-50 and Char 25t going to 7.7 due to 4 second reload buff
–Why is the Somua SM not on this list too then? It has that same reload and a better penetrating shell. It should also be at 7.7.
M26 going to 6.7
–Why is the base M26 going up? Especially when the T26E5, T26E1-1, and M26E1 exist at that same BR.
KV-2 Zis-5 going to 4.0
–Honestly, I don’t hate this change. However, this begs the question, why the KV-1E and KV-1B are staying at 4.0, while being straight upgrades.
Also, some disagreements.
IS-2s moving up, again.
–Why is this necessary?
VIDAR going to 8.0
–More, please. 8.3 would be a better fit, and I only don’t say 8.7 because of the Chinese SPG being stabilized.
KV-220, Object 279
–Why aren’t these vehicles on the list? The KV-220 is comically overarmored for 5.7, and will only get even more oppressive with these changes. And the Object 279 has literally defined the matchmaker ever since the previous decompression, it needs 9.0 badly.
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How does removing the shrapnel shells from early Russian tanks help with balance? Is that a realism issue that was just uncovered?
I always saw those rounds as rather useless. But so what? If it doesn’t hurt to keep them in and there’s no realism issue, why not keep them for people to play around with?
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ZTZ69 II G has DM23 (105), while T-55AMD APFSDS is comparable roughly to DM13 (105). AM/AMD are fine at 8.7 versus T-62s, Chieftains Mk.3 and M60 TTS given their lack of firepower.
T-62M is 9.0 with a better dart that DM23.
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The M26 Pershing has no business going up in BR as long as Gaijin continues to nerf it. This is an absolute joke.
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