so the m26 is now an equivalent to a tiger2h?? gaijin pls keep the m26s at 6,3
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Some changes for some trees
US
m36 5.3 → 4.7 (mid gun, long reload, zero survivability)
m36b2 5.7 → 5.3 (still mid even with heatfs, and 5.3 fits the line up better)
m4a3 76 → 5.3 (mid gun, poor armor, mediocre speed)
m41a1 and varients 6.0 → 6.0 (tall profile, pitiful apds round)
t25 -6.3 → 6.0 (stab removed, mid gun, long reload, bad hull armor, painfully slow)
M26 6.3 → 6.3 (see “t25”)
t34 6.7 → 7.0 (good armor, good gun if slow reload)
m47 and varients 7.3 → 7.0 (bad turret armor, mid gun, long reload)
M1a2 → 12.0
GR
Dicker Max 3.7 → 3.0 (good gun but, slow reload, zero survivability, poor horizontal firing angles, extremely slow speed)
Sturer emil 4.3 → 3.7 (see Dicker max)
Pz IV H 3.7 → 4.0 (good armor, good gun)
leKPz 6.3 → 6.3 (tall profile, mediocre heatfs round)
kugelblitz 7.0 → 6.7 or otherwise stay at 7.0 and remove HE from AP/HVAP belts
tiger 2h (88 and 105) 6.7 → 7.0 (good armor, good gun)
marder a1 7.7 → 7.0 (crappy atgm of which in only has four of, which is its only, and not even reliable, method to kill other tanks with)
Marder 1a3 -8.0 → 7.7 or give milan 2’s
TAM 8.7 → 9.0 (Fast, good apfsds, decent reload, great reverse speed)
Begleit 9.3 → 9.0 or give fire on the move atgm
PUMA 10.0 → 9.7 (poor armor at 10.0, autocannon isnt very effective)
2a6 → 12.0
RU
Yag-10 3.3 → 2.3 (very slow, poor depression, poor targeting speeds, limited firing angle, no armor)
SU-152 4.0 → 3.7 (mediocre armor, extremely long reload, low velocity, very limited firing angles, very slow targeting speeds)
isu-152 4.7 → 4.3 (see SU-152 +extremely slow)
isu-122 5.3 → 4.7 (see isu-152 -low velocity)
isu-122s 5.7 → 5.0 (see isu-122)
ASU-85 6.3 → 6.0 (no armor, slow, very limited targeting angles, slow targeting speed)
is-2 6.0 → 6.0 (mediocre armor, slow, extremely long reload, 122mm round is made extremely unreliable due to volumetric, very little depression)
is-2 6.3 → 6.0 (see is-2 its effectively the same exact vehicle, why its higher is mind boggling)
is-3 7.0 → 7.3 (its armor is a bit too much for 7.0 now)
is-7 8.3 → 8.7 (see is-3)
0bj 279 8.7 → 9.0 (see is-7)
t80bvm 11.7 → 12.0
pantsir 11.7 → 12.0 (by far the best SPAA in-game)
BR
Comet 5.0 to 4.7 or please fix its apds round, its so bad
Conqueror 7.7 → 8.0 (incredible armor and gun if long reload, stabilizer)
JP
Na-to 3.3 → 2.3 (extremely slow, Limited targeting angles, zero survivability, very poor targeting speed)
Chi-to “early” 4.7 → 4.3 (its worse than the late)
chi-ri II 5.0 → 4.7 → (Very Slow, very big, very bad armor)
type 61 6.7 → 6.3 (its just an sta-3 but with a way slower reload due to it lacking the autoloader)
IT
Breda 501 4.7 → 4.3 (limited traverse, poor traverse speed, zero survivability)
m36b1 5.7 → 5.0 (its far worse than the m36b2)
r3-t20 5.7 → 5.0 (this thing has been obliterated into dust by nerfs out of persecution by the entire community, ive never seen a vehicle so unanimously hated)
auble 74 6.7 → 6.3 (poor turning radius, poor acceleration, limited heatfs effectiveness)
auble hvg gaijin plz its cannon is nigh unusably bad
R3 t106 8.0 → 7.7 (poor targeting speed, no armor, no stabilizer, low muzzle velocity, long reload, low ammo count)
FR
AMX-13 FL11 4.0 → 3.3 (poor armor, no gyrostab, low velocity)
m4a4 sa50 5.0 → 4.7 (very slow, poor damage, long reload, mediocre armor, bad reverse speed, no 50.)
EBR 1951 5.3 → 4.7 (slow acceleration, low pen, low velocity, poor armor)
SW
PBv 301 2.3 → 1.7 (very slow, no armor, slow targeting speed)
Strv m/42 EH -2.7 > 2.0 (very low pen, low velocity)
Sav m/43 1946 3.0 → 2.3 (very slow, mediocre armor, long reload, limited traverse, very slow targeting speeds)
Skills players do not make the vehicle they’re using OP. You have to compare their performance to similar class vehicles, not win rates, KDR & KMR Kill-to-Match Ratio for the 2nd.
If VIDAR is OP then they should have far more KDR & KMR compared to AUF1, Akatsya [however it’s spelled].
OTO could have its APFSDS removed and be moved to 9.7 - 10.3 IMO.
@MurkyShallows
lol Putting BVM above all other 11.7s is hilarious, it’s on-par at best.
TOR-M1 is superior to Pantsir BTW.
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Japanese F104J and Chinese F-104G both have same engine and air to air weapon. Why F104J still at 10.3 and F104G is 10.7
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I agree, however, they shouldn’t be starting rounds
Compelling argument.
And thats how you make it 10.7
Germany’s F-4F need BR changes at SB, It lacks a radar missile but its SB BR is still higher (F-4F at 11.0) than F-4E (it has a radar missile at 10.7)
you make it too obvious with the “lady doth protest too much” act
Game Mode:Air Simulator
Vehicle:
1)F2G Super Corsair:Current BR 6.7 ------>Should be: 6.0 ----->Reasoning:Has similar performance with F4U Corsair,but it is armed with only 6 50 cals instead of cannons ;has same performance with the F8F-1 and similar armament.This plane has no place at 6.7 fighting jets that have way better performance and more lethal armament.Keep in mind that with the BR rotation it gets to be 6.7 lobbies only 2 days and even there it is vastly inferior performance and armament to P51H,He162,TA152(which sits at 5.7?),ME262,two versions of Yak15,Griffon Spitfires,Kikka,J21RA.There is literally no reason for it to sit at 6.7 when it cant hold a candle even when its top tier br.Nerf its economy numbers if you have to,but bring its br to a place where it’s competitive and where there are players to play against.
Nerf its economy numbers and bring its br down to 6.0 .Revisit its br if you need at a later date,but you won’t need to.Nobody is playing this plane in sim.
2)M.B.5:Current BR:4.7----->Should be:5.0 ----->Cmon guys,its a Super P51 armed with cannons.
Sir, I don’t even know what you’re talking about in that quote of yours.
I possess all* of the female avatars in War Thunder.
*There might be an unknown amount that I’ve missed gathering.
The only Soviets I played this month is Object 279, and attained a KDR equivalent enough to all other heavy tanks I possess. Every death of mine was one shot by DM33 & HEATFS…
Other than that I’ve been playing Sweden, Italy, USA, Japan, and China.
Taking a break for now.
These changes are fine, more vehicles can & should be added sure. Soviet stuff is on the list a lot, rightfully so for decompressing 4.7 - 5.7.
I can understand moving most of the 11.0 Helicopters to 11.3 but why did you leave Ka-50 at 11.0 ??? that thing is the biggest threat !!! it has longer-range missiles than {AH-1Z,Peten,Rooivalk Mk1F CSH,AHS,AH-64A,AH-64A Peten (USA),AH-64A Peten (USA),AH-64A (GR) (USA)} it has like 9 lives and it can fly without a tail ?? do Thermals make that much of a difference ?? NO
What is the reasoning behind raising the battle ratings of the wheeled vehicles such as the Type 16 and Centauros from 9.3 to 9.7? They are currently in a balanced state in very good lineups, raising the BRs so much will mainly contribute to seeing vehicles from 10.0 to 10.7 since uptiers are near guaranteed. 105mm DM33 and shells like it are strong but that cannot be the only reason for these vehicles to see such an increase. I only ask to understand the reasoning.
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everything mid gets its be changed but the vidar will still ruin the game for others around br of 7.7
wow thanks gaijin
Not only shells. Adding 3rd gen TVD and laser rangefinder is quite enough for the type16 to raise BR
I blacklist every player that plays that thing until gaygin comes to their senses. I guess if your gonna pay $600 for something that is clearly PTW that’s fine but I’m gonna hit that BL button .
TVD does not make a huge difference when the player in control of the vehicle can see decently well with lesser TVDs, and any vehicle at BRs 8.7 and above that does not have a laser rangefinder is automatically miles lesser than the competition
Srsly? Have you really tried both gen1 and gen3? Gen1 is literally unusable campared to gen3 and even gen2. And I’m not talking about rangefinder it self. Its about the combination of TVD and rangefinder
None of the Chinese mid tier ZTZ MBTs should go up in tier
The ZTZ88A, ZTZ88B and T-69 II G are not equal to the WMA301, PTL02 and AFT09.
And why would anyone use the ZTZ MBTs at 9.0 when they are given the choice of the latter?
Seriously that makes SEVEN vehicles at 9.0 including the M60A3 TTS.
It makes to sense to stack one BR so heavily.
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F-4C / T-2 / F-1 receiving CM pods won’t make a difference, As they only carried chaff and no flares. It would just be a chaff only pod like the F-105