Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

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Ariete/ArietePSO
BR Change: 11.3-11.0

Replace DM53 with the original CL3143

The ammunition layout of Ariete is similar to second-generation main battle tanks such as Leopard 1/OF40, and its own armor can only block some of the APFSDS fired by 105MM guns. The 1200 horsepower engine and supporting transmission system perform poorly, and its maneuverability is not as good as other NATO series main battle tanks. Reducing its BR to 11.0 is more appropriate

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The instructions were quite clear: only one vehicle suggestion per post. Any more and the post will be ignored.

Apache AH64D - 11.7 to 12.0 please add AGM-114L

AH Mk1 Apache - 11.7 to 12.0 please add AGM-114L

Challenger 3 TD - 11.7 please give it a 5 second reload along with DM63A1 which would make it immune to being ammo racked

HSTVL - 11.3 to 11.7 please give it at least Delta 3 APFSDS maybe even Delta 6 APFSDS !!

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Needs one post per. Though I’ve already got a suggestion in for the Challenger

Stona_WT,
Mode, vehicle name. 8.0 > 8.3. Reasoning.
2S38 from 10.3>11.7 reason the HSTV-L moving to 11.7 this new BR change and the HSTV-L holds less ammo, gen 1 thermals, and the 2S38 has overall better optics at 4.0x-9.4x

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Good day, here are the changes I believe must be made in the current balance adjustments.

Unfortunately, my suggestions are quite extensive, so describing them in a “one message — one vehicle” format will not be feasible.

(ARB) F8U-2 10.0 > 10.7 — The aircraft is ultimate in terms of characteristics compared to planes with a BR of 9.0-10.3. It has 4 excellent missiles and frequently encounters aircraft that don’t have countermeasures. It boasts great acceleration, armament, a substantial supply of countermeasures, and is capable of engaging in turn-fights and emerging victorious.

(ARB) F-4C 10.7 > 10.0 — The aircraft has no countermeasures, mediocre performance, poor maneuverability, and its only advantage is its significant bomb load. However, in direct confrontation with any aircraft of its BR, it will lose in every aspect.

(ARB) MiG-21 Bison 12.3 > 12.7 — The aircraft has excellent missiles and a helmet-mounted sight at a very low BR. Compared to its competitors, it is completely overpowered.

(ARB) F-20A 12.7 > 12.3 — In every respect, it is worse than the F-16 and its premium competitor, the Bison. It lacks a helmet-mounted sight and has mediocre AIM-7 missiles compared to the R-27. It does not belong at its current BR.

(ARB) F-104S and TAF 11.3 > 11.0/10.7 — The aircraft initially had mediocre flight performance compared to its competitors, but after the recent nerf, it has become even less playable.

(ARB) F-104S.ASA 12.0 > 11.3/11.0 — Compared to the S model, the ASA only has enhanced armament with four 9L missiles. It lacks both a helmet-mounted sight and an advanced radar. It doesn’t even have serious semi-active radar missiles, as using them requires removing the cannon, making it unplayable in close combat. This aircraft clearly doesn’t deserve to be in the same battles as the Su-27, especially after the recent nerf to the entire series.

(ARB) F-104G (all nations) 11.0/10.7 > 10.7/10.3 — These planes have received a significant maneuverability nerf in the latest major update, and a BR reduction by at least one step is required to make their primary advantage, speed, more viable.

(ARB) F-104J 10.3 > 10.0 — The aircraft has no countermeasures, and after the recent nerf, active maneuvering to dodge missiles has become impossible. A BR reduction is needed.

(ARB) F-4J(UK) 12.0 > 11.7 — The aircraft lacks a helmet-mounted sight, unlike its American counterpart, yet will face the Su-27 alongside it.

(ARB) F-1 10.3 > 10.0 — The aircraft has no major differences in flight performance from the T-2, and if there are any, they are insignificant. It lacks countermeasures, and its armament consists of just four 9P missiles, which cannot compensate for its weak performance for 10.3 and the absence of countermeasures. The aircraft is inferior in every aspect compared to the previously mentioned F8U-2, which is at a lower BR, has comparable missiles, and comes with countermeasures.

(ARB) Kfir Canard 11.3 > 10.7 — The aircraft cannot compete on equal terms with its BR counterparts. It has mediocre armament for its BR. It was well-balanced before the decompression, and it needs to be returned to its rightful BR to ease the progression of the Israeli tree, as Israel lacks premium alternatives.

(ARB) Saab J35XS 11.3 > 10.7 — The aircraft cannot compete on equal terms with its BR counterparts. It has mediocre armament for its BR. It was well-balanced before the decompression, and it needs to be returned to its rightful BR to facilitate the progression of the Swedish tree, as Sweden lacks premium alternatives.

Once again, I deeply apologize for presenting this in a list format rather than individual messages. I consider these to be the most critical vehicles in need of immediate adjustments.

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You need to seperate those into 1 post per vehicle. The idea being that people can like the each individual post to denote community approval

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Also, F-4C would be totally OP at 10.0

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M-18 Black Cat GRB 6.0>5.7

Went up to 6.0 with the TT M-18 but didn’t receive the same HP buff. It is an inferior tank with less mobility than the TT version now while at the same BR.

Like the similarly less-engined P-61-A-11 (in the same Black Friday pack), it is 0.3br below the TT variant due to reduced engine power and mobility. M-18 black cat should be the same, or there is almost no point in buying it.

Softstat change suggestions: Give the He grenades to Rank I and II, with Overpressure and many unarmored or thinnly armored vehicles, especially if your tank doesnt have a coax (P.204 (f) for example) and most can be effective. Especially the Pz III Ausf.F and J which have the 5 cm KwK 38 L/42, the Sprgr.38 has 200g Fp.02 and Np.10 with an TnT aquivalent of 256g thats more than enove to Overpressure enemys.

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Vehicle in question: Seafire LF Mk.III(FAA/Aeronautica navale)
Vehicle changes: 5.0-4.3 ARB
Barely provides any improvement over the Mk. IX, if any.

Softstat change suggestions: GRB Pz III Ausf.F and J, Pz.Sp.Wg. P204(f) KwK 38

5 cm KwK 38 L/42 Aced Max Crew Reload Speed of currently 4.0 Sec lowering to 3.0 or 3.3 Seconds (the fastest). It is a good/mediocre gun, with good Penetration (80mm) at relatively low Velocity (685m/s), but even the fastest reload is 4.0 Seconds. For comparisson the other guns of similar Performance and size have much faster reloads with, including 1 and 2 men turrets, while the 5 cm KwK 38 L/42 (on Pz III Ausf.F and J as well as Pz.Sp.Wg. P204(f) KwK), it also has a Dedicated loader (and on the Pz III Ausf.J even nerfed by a Ready rack):
37mm M3/M5/M6 guns 2.9 Sec
75mm M2 3.3 Sec
45mm 20-K 2.9 sec (on T-80 even 2.5 sec)
76,2 mm 1902/30 4.3 sec
4 cm QF 2 pdr 2.8 sec
4,7 cm QF 3 pdr 3.0 sec
5,7 cm Type 97 3.3 sec
4,7 cm Type 1 3.3 sec
4 cm MAVAG 41.M 40/51 2.8 sec
4,7 cm 47/32 2.9-3.0 sec
4,7 cm 47/40 3.3 sec
4,7 cm SA 35 L/32 3.0 Sec (with Dedicated loader, without 4.0 sec (1 man turret))
4,7 cm SA 37 3.0 sec

T18E2 RGB 3.0 → 3.7/4.0 It has more armor, a stronger gun and comparable Speed and cant be easily destroyed with even HMGs and lighter cannons, it has so much armor with angle that frontally some cant penetrate it at all (like the italian guns), compared to the Sd.Kfz.234/2 which allready sits at 3.7, which has only 30mm (angled) armor, with the rest only 8-14,5mm and a weaker gun.

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Panzer IV Ausf.E GRB 2.0 → 1.7 It is basically in between the Pz IV Ausf. C and F1, tho at the same Br as F1, even tho it only has mere 30mm frontal turret armor, and mostly 20mm side and back armor. While it has 10mm more Frontal hull protection, however that has holes with just 30mm. There isnt really a reason to play the E over the F1, as you cant even properly angle, because of the 20mm side, which can even be penetrated by relatively more powerfull 37mm guns.

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Yak-9K GRB 4.3>4.7~5.0

45mm unhistoric APHE it never used in battle, zero dispersion, zero recoil, zero skill needed, perfect fuse for shooting planes too, doesn’t overheat in a max rate turn like IRL (it was a TERRIBLE CAS plane IRL), meanwhile in game, perfect plane with often 6 kills per ammo load, absolutely destroyed German WR from BR3-5.

But you can see this on the statistics and will do nothing as usual, like the PE-8, Like the SKR-7 etc etc etc.

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Bf 110 C-6 GRB (Not Air) 3.0 → 2.3 Reason: The better C-7 is 2.7 which is better because: Armored glass, can carry bombs and has 2x 20mm Mg FF/M and faster while the C-6 cant have bombs has no 20mm and is fixed with the 30mm Mk 101. In comparison the Hs 129 B-2 which is also at 2.3 has more armor, 2x 20mm Mg 151/20 and 2x Mg 17 (instead of 4x Mg 17) and a Mk 103 with 100 instead of 60 rounds and higher fire rate. It overall exchanges most of it offencive firepower for a better flightperformance.

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Hs 129 B-2 GRB (Mainly Ground) 2.3 → 2.0 while the Offencive Firepower is good, it has no defencive armarment and is quite slow with usually 250-300 km/h, especially in an uptier to 3.3 the power increase to other planes is extreme and the Hs 129 cant even escape, escaping from Biplanes (like the russian ones) is even complicated).

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Do 217 J-2 (Ground and Air) 2.3 → 2.0 it is simply a J-1 (2.0) with the only difference beeing having an useless radar and changing the camo from black to white with black spots.

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VEXTRA105TML

BR Change: 9.7-10.3/10.7

RANK Change: 6-7

Add OFL105F2 or OFL105G2, and increase the cannon loading time to 7.8S/6.4S/6S (loading time limited to BR10.7)

The mobility, protection, and flexibility of VEXTRA105 far exceed those of similar MGS in the vicinity of BR. It should receive better ammunition to enhance BR, increasing BR to 10+, which is more conducive to the future Dutch Army joining the French ground technology tree and forming the best partner with the Leopard 2A4 provided by the Netherlands

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Do 217 N-1 (Ground and Air) 2.7 → 2.3 it is a Do 217 J with radar a little bit stronger (but also heavyer) engines (1430 hp to 1580 (150hp more)), changes the 20mm Mg FF/M to Mg 151/20 which are also heavyer (but fire the same rounds and) and has on paper a tiny little improvement in climp (5,9 to 6,8 (0,9 more) and such but because its also a good tat heavyer flyes even worse.

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