you are countering a CAS at 12.7BR ,then you should going up to 12.7 BR also.
Here is what I will be responding to in context:
What I am going to discuss here is decompressing top tier from 13.7 to 14.0. Since it is a 0.3 step, it should not be terribly hard to do. As a result, I would like to group certain planes together to represent the 13.0 to 14.0.
Firstly, let’s address the elephant in the room - 13.0 is a weird BR. The F-16As are leaving it, and the Su-27 and J-11 are joining it. This has the exact OPPOSITE intention of decompression - we are now compressing 12.0 again.
The solution to this recompression problem is NOT to move planes down in BR. Rather we should be moving the ceiling up to 14.0. Here are my proposals for this decompression.
12.7:
- F-14A Early
- F-16A
- F-20A
- MiG-29 9.12A (Germany)
- MiG-29 9.12B (Italy)
- MiG-29 9.13
13.0:
- F-16A ADF
- F-14B
- F-14A IRIAF (USA)
- F-16A ADF (Italy)
- F-16AJ
- F-16A MLU (Taiwan)
- Netz
13.3:
- F-15A
- AV-8B Plus
- MiG-29G
- Su-27
- Sea Harrier FA.2
- AV-8B Plus (Italy)
- Mirage 4000
- F-16A (France)
- J-11
- J-8F
- JAS 39A
- F-15A Baz
13.7:
- MiG-29SMT
- F-4F ICE
- Tornado F.3 Late
14.0:
- F-16CM Block 50
- F-15C MSIP-II
- Su-27SM
- JAS 39C (Britain)
- F-15J(M)
- J-10A
- J-11A
- JAS 39C (Italy)
- Mirage 2000-5F
- F-16AM (France)
- JAS 39C
- F-16C Block 40 Barak II
- F-15C Baz Meshupar
- F-16D Block 40 Barak II
This spread that I have laid out not only helps 12.0 remain relatively decompressed, it also creates more room for better top tier decompression. Please consider this path instead of compressing high tier jets again.
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Tornado IDS ASSTA1/IDS(1995)/Gr.1 (AirRB) 11.7 → 11.3
The 3 late IDS-Tornados from Germany, Italy and Great Britain do not differ in any way from the Tornado Marineflieger/ WTD61/IDS in terms of the Air2Air capabilities.
They all essentially identical, only difference being that the ASSTA/IDS(1995)/Gr.1 get guided bombs, not of relevance to AirRB.
So the BR of the ASSTA/IDS(1995)/Gr.1 should match the ones of the Marineflieger/WTD61/IDS, 11.3
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I dont lose to a turn fight lol, i do the same thing to them as all sub sonics i bleed them and drag them high up or BnZ them. But a in a full downtier to 8.3 AIM 9Ds are just two insta kill missiles. Its one of the better 9.3 vehicles imo for that reason and in uptiers you can at least defend against opponents of which many other 9.3s cant
So it should be a 10.0 that faces 10.7-11.0-11.3 in uptiers? With the shittiest RWR known to man, NO RADAR, 2x30mm cannons with 800m/s velocity, subsonic no afterburner that loses all of its energy in a single turn.
The Ayit already struggles heavy against an uptier facing 10.3-10.7, it will be useless at 10.0 and Israel will become yet another dead nation as its actually the only jet between 7.0 and 13.0~ that is able to be used. With this sort of “Decompression” Gaijin should just remove everything but USA and Russia
Right, but 9.0 can get all aspect radar missile. Got it. No bias here.
Should be 9.7, not 10.0 or 10.3.
You only play arcade battles, so don’t talk about ARB changes.
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All aspect radar missile? What vehicles have pulse doppler radar missiles at 10.0? Aside from the 10.3 all aspect slingers what?
It is changed in AB too, you should know.
GRB, Ariete siries 12.0>11.7/11.7>11.3 Id suggest leaving them where they are atm. Decreasing the Reload speed mostdefinetly would make them better then they are rn but it might make more sense to leave them where they are atm with the current reload and a “better” match maker and accept that they are not as good as Leopard 2A7s or the T-80 BVM for example.
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I do know, but we are talking about ARB changes.
He is probably right about being angry about the AYIT going up in arcade battles, but I am not talking about arcade battles, just the AYIT in ARB.
Yeah i was gonna say who cares about arcade, that is a mess in and of itself anyways with so many brs not making sense. RB matters way more
(SB) Strv 103-0: 8.0 → 8.3
Do you know how to read a excel spreadsheet? It clearly says “A R C A D E” above the BR changes pal. Going full Clown mode “Dont talk about ARB changes” Okay bud, i’ll for sure listen to you lmfao
No.
Just… no.
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Silly but no, they dont have the armor to withstand most on tier vehicles so no. Maybe if hull aiming, their reload, or gun depression is fixed sure but for now no.
I’m saying it should go up to 9.7 in ARB, same with the dude you are arguing with.
Ground realistic, OTOMATIC, 11.3 > 10.7
Small shell ready-rack, Slow ready-rack replenishment rate, Slow shell velocity, very low effective range (like 4 km), very tall and easy to spot.
OTOMATIC has to rely only on HE-VT but HE-VT is very easy to dodge so OTOMATIC is not very effective on its br. most of the other SPAA on lower br is way more effective than OTOMATIC.
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Yeah arcade idc where it goes but in arb its under BR’d as are a lot of 9.7 jets, compression is just horrible
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Okay buddy, keep talking nonsense. You literally jumped into my conversation and said “dont talk about ARB” before I said a single word in your direction. You are a straight clown