It cant get better missiles, and 11.0 is a good change to test it at and see if it needs to go down further.
Why move up american F-14s? The only good F-14 is the IRIAF version with its ridiculous AMRAAM-level missiles
J35XS is not the only thing that needs to be moved down. A ton of vehicles do too xD
Ground RB, AMX-13 (FL11) : 4.3 > 4.0 (or even 3.7 like in the past)
This thing is not better than the M24 or the AMX-13 M24, while it’s BR is way too high.
Not only it’s barely usable now, it has NO line up at all, it is alone at 4.3 while everything else is either 3.7 or 5.0
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The Yak-3 (e) needs to be moved up too. Probably to 4.3 (with the regular Yak-3).
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One after another…
GRB Pantsir-S1 11.7 > 12.0
I think there’s basically no need to explain for this, because it’s the most threatening SPAA in the whole game. When maximum BR of ground vehicles go to 12.0, then why keep these top-tier SPAA at 11.7?
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GRB, Sidam-25, 8.3 > 7.3
Sidam-25 is genuinely overtiered. It’s inferior to the Gepard in EVERY SINGULAR WAY, yet they are the same BR. Hell, it’s like the M163. Why does M163 receive a downtier, but the SIDAM-25 is still 8.3? It only gets a singular load of ammunition, it has an effective engagement range of ~2.2-2.3km, no radar, meh mobility, and can’t even engage tanks effectively with it’s stock belt.
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Dude i dont care your opinion byeeeee.
All mig 21 bis they were in a good spot, there was no need to go to 11.0.
Same for mig23mf
f104S and S TAF remain 11.3, although they have inferior flight performance and armament to the mig21 bis.
f104S ASA should be 11.7 or maybe even 11.3 instead of 12.0.
(the problem with the Mig 21 was the F14 A, now that it went to 12.7 there was no need to move the Mig 21 to 11.0)
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:insert laugh emoji:
Less versatile than the Gepard 1A2, sure, but it is much harder to spot than the Gepard 1A2, and gets twice the number of stingers. I think the Gepard 1A2 is slightly better, because it can defend itself from ground vehicles, as well as close-range air targets, but the ozelot is not too bad.
The change from the F-14 A and IRIAF is purely the cry of beginners who buy premium top tier. As did the AIM-120 nerf shortly after it arrived. Congratulations to those involved, you managed to ruin yet another thing.
7.3 is way too low. I’d say 7.7 or 8.0 is reasonable.
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Then maybe learn how to play your vehicle instead of complaining about nonexistent problems
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I disagree with this solution for HSTV-L.
Instead, the vehicle should receive its historical shell choice and gun muzzle speed; that way, with significantly increased firepower (105mm M774-level), it would fit exactly where it is, which is where it belongs.
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HSTV-L 11.3>11.7 I find it criminal that the HSTV is going up again and the 2S38 is only going to 10.3 yet it has only ~±50mm less penetration, a higher fire rate, better AA capabilities, and double maybe even triple the ammo count… Oh I almost forget… Gen 3 Thermals. I guess there’s more information on a classified vehicle from 2020 than there is a declassified vehicle from the late 1960’s / early 70’s. I guess I’ll cope.
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GRB, Turm III, 8.3 > 8.7.
Turm III STILL being 8.3 is actually just confusing to me. It gets a two-plane stabilizer, good gun handling, 30mm Falcon coaxial, access to good APDS/HEATFS rounds, 5s autoloader, good mobility at 8.3. At this br, it just outperforms like 90% of the vehicles it faces, with the most effective counter to it being perhaps the T-55AM1, which it doesnt even fight against with a 100% chance.
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Honestly, I would like too see 10.7/10.3 Draken for just funny.
It would be insanely OP as fuck lmfao
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We will need to wait another 5 years for that, just like the addition of IRST and proxy shells.
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