Planned Battle Rating Changes for October 2024

Vehicle: Harrier Gr7
Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Sim
BR Change: 12.3 ----> 12.0
Reason: The Harrier Gr7 has no radar and sub-sonic flight performance. It is well equipped with a defensive loadout but has limited ability to survive against a smart and determined attacker. Its BR also renders it extremely hard to use it within its main role of A2G attack. Additionally, there is no 12.3 Bracket. So the Harrier Gr7 is always at a minimum fighting 12.7s and therefore has a Psuedo BR of 12.7 not 12.3. Lowering it to 12.0 would massively increases its playability.

In ARB, its now going to be directly facing aircraft like the F-16 on the regular with their BR reduction.

Alternative Solution: Give the Harrier Gr7 its native MAWS and not the C&P from the F-111A. Add the missing 2x Aim-9Ms and 2x AGM-65s . Fix the exhaust being sooty to reduce visiblity. Fix the IR signature being so hot its nearly impossible to flare anything.

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F-1: Air RB, 10.3 → 10.0.

Pretty mediocre aircraft at 10.3. Its only upgrade over T-2 is a pair of AIM-9Js, and i believe a small weight decrease. I had a good time in it, but it is NOT easy to fly for most players.

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ARB, Saab J35XS. 11.3>10.7. Plays against radar missiles. It is not able to carry them or detect launch by itself (RWR). Its flight model does not allow it to participate in turn battles, because after a couple of turns it will start to fall. When levelled off, it becomes easy prey for MiG-21Bis missiles, which have same battle rate as J35XS but only 6 all-course missiles and RWR.

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Ground RB, Stormer HVM, 10.3 > 10.0

While it is an alright vehicle, it is overshadowed by other 10.3 spaa at the same BR, Roland 3s are missiles used by multiple 10.3 spaas, and some even lower, and it has greater range, and has a proximinty fuze. Stormer HVM would be good at 10.0

(I know only one suggestion per comment, but with this change, it could also move the Stormer AD which is currently at 10.0, to 9.7, due to it having HALF the stinger missiles than the same BR LAV AD in the US tech tree, while also being slower)

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I don’t see many changes to naval which is unfortunate as it badly needs to be decompressed. So I beg thy to decompress it just at least a little.

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Naval AB/RB SKR-7 family 4.3 to 4.7 Its rockets and autoloading round is no match for tier II ship in 4.3 BR

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Realistic Battles, F-16A MLU (China) 12.7 (planed) > 13.0/13.3. Add AIM-120A to this F-16, It’ll be historically accurate and good for Chinese vechicle players

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wtf? It’s probably not even in the top 10 MBTs and is even outclassed by the BVM, let alone one of the most dominant top tier MBTs

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From what I understand the name Yak-141 was made up by the Soviets to confuse people and the plane’s internal designation was Yak-41M. I could be wrong though.

I dont think anyone is denying SRAAM is bad when used correctly, but at 9.7 there are a ton of supersonic planes which you cant simply use the SRAAM on because they outspeed you, thus you cant use the SRAAM on them.

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Tornado IDS ASSTA/IDS (1995)/ Tornado GR.1 11.7 → 11.3 (ARB)
They have no differences in ARB mode with the 11.3 variants

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meanwhile there is a tank named T25 who lost its stablizer, got br increased, would be penetrated easily even in a full downtier battle 🤣

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GRB, Radkampfwagen90. 9.7-9.3. Reasoning: only had the DM33, which did not contain the thermal imaging device, while the Rooikat MTTD containing the low-clear thermal imaging device and DM33 was 9.0

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Vehicle: T-44
Gamemode: Ground RB
BR Change: 6.7 ----> 6.3
Reason: T-44 is equipped with an outdated 85mm cannon, not able to penetrate any medium or heavy tank from front at this br------not even M26, which is trash at 6.7. It’s suspension performs poorly.

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My bad. Was just trying to help in case of typo. Because all of our voices deserve to be heard.

someone write about T25 plz

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Vehicle: AMX A-1A
Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Sim
BR Change: ARB: 11.3 -----> 11.0. ASB: 11.3 → 10.7
Reason: The AMX A-1A has a similar flight performance to that of the Sea Harrier FRS1e and has a similar A2A loadout. It does hold an advantage of higher CM count and better AAMs, but this does not justify being 0.7 BR higher. 11.0 would be more reasonable for now.

10.7 for Air Realistic is possibly needed, it really comes down to the relative performance between Aim-9Ls and the MAA-1 Piranha’s and whether the 120 CMs and MAA-1s are better suited at 11.0

Air Sim should get a lower BR as the lack of radar greatly impacts aircraft with All-aspect AAMs to use them in all-aspect, and any advantage over the Aim-9Ls the AAMs on the AMX might have is mitigated by this fact and should share a BR with the Sea Harrier FRS1e

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why do these tanks still have to be in the same BR as T80BVM, strv122, and Leo A7? their performance is only worth 11.0. unless gaijin provides them with a reasonable buff.
demonstration:
the slowest loading speed(7.1), the worst shell penetration(577) , have some, but very poor armor.
compared to the T90A/ZTZ99-2/3, their only advantage is mobility. but the defense is worse. this offset the advantage of maneuverability.
The overall performance has not improved at all, but the BR has increased by 1.0.
The armor and weaknesses of M1A1AIM are similar to them. but M1A1AIM is superior to them anywhere except for armor. 5-second loading speed, with a penetration of nearly 600mm.now it has also obtained M829A2.

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due to not have hull ammunition racks and the presence of four crew members. M1 can often survive even after being penetrated. and 99A/1001/VT4 will immediately die after being penetrated.
they are not worth 12.0 at all, they are only worth 11.0.

but Gaijin was completely unaware of this issue. this is really rotten.
why don’t you put T3476 and Tiger in the same BR?
@Stona_WT

According to various sources, The length of DTC10 should be at least 635mm (without tail fins)
When carrying the tail wing, it is 675mm . Maximum penetration force 680mm.
And the loading speed in the video is faster.
But Gaijin has been looking for various reasons and excuses to refuse to use this evidence.
And intentionally made a toxic 577mm . Using the T72 loader structure as a reason to limit the loading speed of China MBTs.
Until now, they have never attempted to make any improvements.

If gaijin still wants to place them in top tier competitions. Then they should at least shorten the loading time to 6.5. And change the penetration force of DTC10 to 635-680mm.
These all have sources, but Gaijin is unwilling to admit them.
as you said. Gaijin does not accept undisclosed information. so we will not release any further reports on shells. but this cannot be used as a reason for you to refuse to enhance the penetration power of the shells.
I can clearly tell you that the length of DTC10 is at least 635mm (with a tail wing of 675mm). Also including high initial velocity. Special materials such as tungsten alloy. The tail has a built-in combination structure. These factors bring more penetration power. It will far exceed 635 and 3BM60.
Instead of creating 580-3 based on russian biased stereotypes.

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If according to the user manual and official media’s public information, it should be (2000m 680mm)

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99A坦克“大招”曝光:一击打穿2000米外680毫米装甲_新闻频道_央视网(cctv.com)

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whether you believe it or not, this is currently the most authoritative source that can be publicly disclosed.

more and more vehicles are now receiving M829A2 and DM53, and achieve faster loading speed.
so DTC10 should also be revised to the official media reported 635-680mm.
and increase the loading speed of these 3 MBTs to 6.5 seconds.
only in this way can make up for the poor survivability and firepower.
gain competitiveness comparable to T80BVM, strv122, and leo2A7.

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Sholef (V1) Reload Speed 12.0 sec → 6.5 Seconds
With this report accepted, Community Bug Reporting System
The sholef could get variable reload speed, similar to the object 279.

I propose that its reload speed with an ace crew becomes 6.5 seconds to compensate for how horrible the vehicle is (ive played it, i hate it).

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Air Realistic Battle. F-104S TAF 11.3 > 11.0
Most aircraft from 11.3 are lowered to 11.0 (including MiG-23M/MF, 21bis, Lazur), but have you forgotten the Starfighters? In the latest update, his maneuverability was nerfed, making him unable to dodge even a missile like aim 9E, not to mention the aim 7F, 24R/T or R-60. The speed of this aircraft at 11.3 is no longer interesting to anyone, and all sorts of Lazur or MiG-23 fly even faster. Yes, of course he has as many as 6 missiles, but what’s the point? You can almost never get on the enemy’s tail, and you also cannot adequately reach the enemy to kill him from the gun (thanks to the nerf maneuverability). I don’t even want to talk about any kind of maneuverable combat, everything is already clear there.

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