and not only that that, the missile fly straight for almost a second before it starts turning. It is for sure a worse missile over the 9L :/
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Yep, never used the F-14, might play the event one eventually, but yeah, never had any issues to defending against them myself.
Only exceptions
- Those with no RWR
- Those with very low CM counts
- Those with poor handling AND weak CMs
Those with no RWR should go down out of sight. Those with very low CM counts should either go down out of sight but ideally get CM pods added if possible and those with poor handling and weak CMs was basically just the Tornado ADV, FM has been fixed and just need Phimat to augment the BOL (or for them to fix the BOL)
Everything shouldnt have too many issues. Though a core and often overlooked problem is the map design. F-14s would be a fraction of the strength they are now if ARB wasnt a “single lane” design. Add a second AF to both teams and make matches wider and the F-14 looses most of its strength. I rarely see F-14s even use Aim-54s let alone get kills with them in Sim.
Rear-aspect only IR missiles at 12.7, same BR as F-16s with All-aspect IRs seems really rough.
As for A-10C, should just match the BR of the Su-25T and Su-39. Simple. Maybe they need to get R-27Ts for a buff and the Su-25SM3 should probably join them at the same BR. But the A-10C isnt this god-tier aircraft that deserves to be so over BRed its impossible to play. Aim-9Ms are good in Niche situations but not OP. Heck the Harrier Gr7 in Sim which is better in almost every respect to the A-10, struggles like hell at 12.7(12.3 but no 12.3 bracket) and I want that down to 12.0 and it wouldnt be OP at that BR, far from it in Sim. The fact people want the A-10C higher than that, is just insane.
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Up-vote this one please:
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No, I meant for Air RB. In sim, it stays where it’s at. Doesn’t need a forward spawn in sim battles. Think we can agree on that. The forward spawn in Air RB was Gaijin’s balance to moving it up, after stating that they didn’t want to move it up.
F-14A IRIAF (USA) 12.7>12.3
The radar and RWR of the F14 are relatively outdated, and the number of interfering objects is too small, making it difficult to resist more advanced aircraft
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AirRb, F-4S (and counterpars). 12.0 > 11.7.
At 11.7 it will still face all the F-14 variants but it is unfair for the F-4 without irccm missiles and with mediocre radar and fox1 missiles for the br (when uptiered). F15s and Su27s (already for the F15) will destroy them with the irccm missiles, higher speed and manouverability, better radars and missiles. Plus it doesn’t have enough countermeasures, the very hot F4 airframe needs more than average amount of flares for the heat seekers to be confused.
I only said about air rb because that’s where I use it more. But I would assume that this applies for Air Arcade. On sim it also needs to go down. It will be playable only when the bracket will be from 12.3 and bellow
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swap ZLT11 and ZBD04A in the tech tree, as well as Rooikat Mk. 1D and Olifant mk. 1
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Why consume flares when you can’t see any unless you face against IRCCM missile carriers?
It is not a “hypothesis” but a fact.
My point is situations where AIM-9L ignores flare can totally happen with PL-5B.
I strongly suggest you read the missile data sheets before posting your ridiculous fantasies.
F-105 is literally flareless jet LMFAO.
It has chaff only and doesn’t work against IR missiles.
Maybe you just fired a missile in a bad condtion or just made it up.
There is no advantage of Magic 1/PL-7 over PL-5B other than guidance performance.
This is not a made up fact or hypothesis, but a fact that can be read from datamines and missile data sheets.
Most aircraft are fine with 9.7BR. Apparently the problem is your skill and experience in thinking it is fair to spam a PL-5B into a 9.7BR jet.
Also, ML/MLA/MLD model or even most 12.0s are not huge issues for wiping.
Ground hugging meta literally starts after 11.0 BR because of PD radar + SARH missile carrier.
With a BR below that, climbing is still valid.
Also you can see the following SARH at 9.0-11.0
- AIM-7C (F3H)
- AIM-7D (F-4C)
- AIM-9C (F-8E)
- R-3R (MiG-21S, MiG-21SPS-K, MiG-21MF, MiG-21SMT)
- Matra R530E (Mirage IIIC/CJ, IIIE)
Yeah “prominent radar missile” certainly seems to be there.
I have no regrets at all about buying the J-7D honestly.
I have long wanted the J-7C/J-7D to be implemented into the game since Chinese TT was implemented in 2019, and I bought it just for fun, not to use as a grinder just like you and most J-7D player did. Too bad it went to under of paywall.
Whatever, You seem to be making a ridiculous plea to lower the J-7D to 10.7BR just because you have skill issue.
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The F14 IRIAF is pretty freaking good ngl.
The only other aam the Su-25SM3/ T/ 39 got (other than super crazy op ones) as far as I know the radar equipped Su-39 could mount 2 R-77 next to the pylon that carries the R-73s.
I think the su-25sm3 and A10c should sit nicely at 12.0 because if they add r-77s to the Su-39, that would have to at least be 12.0, maybe even 12.3
The thing that really makes the A-10C OP is the Aim-9m
JH7A 12.3->12.0 (Air Combat History)
This aircraft only has four non-jamming omnidirectional infrared missiles but at the high level of 12.3, except for a good radar that is of little use to it, if you want to maintain the current level, please add PL11 or PL12, the radar of the JH7A is fully capable of firing one of the missiles, but PLAAF has never done this, because PLAAF has only done some technical verification on the JH7A.
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Based upon the thread for them. The Su-39 at least could get R-27R, R-27T, R-27ER, R-27ET and R-77s. (on the pylons that currently mount the R-60)
R-77s would put them at 12.7/13.0 instantly. R-27ER and R-27ET would probably put them at 12+
R-27Ts… They would be fine.
(at least if I remember that information correctly, been a while since I looked at that thread)
Except, they aren’t. Yes they have a smokeless motor, but if an A-10 has gotten a shot off at you without you noticing its there, you would have also died to an Aim-9L.
Flaring them isnt any harder than R-73 or Magic II, just different.
In all other respects, they have the same performance as an Aim-9L (even down to the incorrect lock ranges)
Not even 11.3, if it is a pure gun plane, its airframe is more comprable to the subsonic fighters, and it would be fairly well balanced against the later subsonics. At this BR the amount of CM’s and any IRCM or HMD doesnt matter.
Tanks - most ATGM only vehicles ie RAKJpz2, RAKJpz2HOT, M901, (IT-1 ? maybe not this one), swingfire, striker, ZT3A2, type 60 ATM, M113A1 and varients(also why is this not in USA TT), pvrbv 551, udes 33, Zaclam tiger
mode - GRB
BR- down 1 step ie 0.3/0.4 for all
Reason- Since the missile/ATGM nerfs, controlling and using these missile only vehicles has become alot harder, any slight movement in the direction of the missile by correcting throws the missile completly off making it alot harder in most cases to a hit a target, also these vehicles barley get used anymore and in general do very poorly, the Tow-2b/Bill varients are alot more usable but suggest adding the Tow2b/Bill as already unlocked for them.
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The R77 mounts between the R73 and Vikhir. (I’m play of the agm)
The R-27ER would make it a 12.7, those R-77s… are meh to say the least, I still prefer the R-27ER, I don’t think I’ve scored a single kill with an R-77, not to say I’ve fired more than 12, but still.
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so do all deltas at low speed, punch the reheat and keep it at high speeds (~600 kph IAS minimum) and you UFO
F8U-2 at 10.0 is CRIMINAL.
Please Ctrl+F and upvote the other comments about it so that Gaijin take notice!
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JH7A should be strengthened
gaijn should restore the four KH29T air-to-surface missiles that the JH7A should have, and if it does, the ground weight of the JH7A can rise to 12.0
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If F-14A is going to be at 12.7 with rear-aspect only IRs and the Aim-54, an easy to defeat ARH and the Sea Harrier FA2 a 9.7 airframe, with a better engine and AMRAAM is at 13.0. Then Su-39 with 2x R-77s is at a minimum 12.7
The Merkava MK3 should stay at their current BR because they are heavy, slow and have a massive Profile without offering Armour
Merkava MK3 11.3>11.0
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