Air RB, Kfir Canard . 11.3 > 11.0. This plane doesn’t have much counter measures and has pretty bad missiles to fight even with MIG-23.
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GRB, Centurion Mk.10 (STRV 101, e.t.c), 8.0 > 7.7.
Honestly, Cent. Mk.10s aren’t THAT huge of an improvement over the Mk.3. Yes, you get better sabot, but then again, it’s sabot, the spall isnt huge. Same hull, slightly different mantlet, same mid mobility. This would also help improve the swedish 7.7 ‘lineup’, which only has 2 tanks as of right now.
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Every mode, ALL top tier MBT’s bar the Ariete’s.and Challenger’s. 12.0 > 13.7. Since air is at 13.7 why not ground? Also the Chally’s and Art’s are pretty sad.
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One other overlooked vehicle
Ground RB. Pantsir-S1. 11.7 > 12.0. By far the strongest SPAA in-game, it’s the bane of top tier cas which other nations have nothing to match it currently, the fact it’s only a BR step above the Type 81 but with a lot faster missiles, cannons and radar which some aircraft aren’t even able to pick up on RWR, the thing should always match the highest BR ceiling everytime they’re increased. (If it were up to me the thing should be the sole 14.0 of the game)
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Cent Mk.10 gets an additional 44mm to the UFP.
Guys, do a search before you make a new post. Clogging up the thread hugely:
There are already TONS of posts saying the same exact thing as your post:
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Oh I see. I hadn’t appreciated that, I thought you were suggesting that those planes should be 9.0.
He is wrong, the MiG-21F-13 has no business being at 9.0. The same is true for the Lightning and the F-104. Keep in mind that you can’t so easily draw this parallel since the Lightning/Starfighter are much more competitive than the MiG21F-13, even post Starfighter nerf. The lightning has decent retention in the right speed ranges.
None of these planes need to go down. That latter two drastically need to go up.
GRB, Object 906, 8.0 > 8.3.
How is it at 8.0? It gets access to great APHE (for an 85mm cannon), stabilizer, HEATFS, good mobility and a 4s autoloader. MIND YOU, CHAR 25T IS THE SAME BR, and it gets a worse shell, no stabilizer, no HEATFS, same 4s autoloader, and just slightly better mobility.
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you mean 2025?
None of the fixed wing CAS except for the SM3 get high quality thermals with extremely good zoom and none of them get TGPs theyre all stuck with forward looking cams making any laser guided weapons mostly suicidal to use
I dint know why you included helicopters in this list because western SPAA and even most MBTs with proxy fuse can deal with them no problem
Yeah, In fact i’ve already got a suggestion in for the opposite:
But the idea of a Mig-21 at 9.0 is just insane, if it goes down then at a minimum the others shoudlnt go up.
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I agree entirely
Its a super-sonic aircraft with R-77s. It is vastly superior to aircraft like the Sea Harrier FA2 at 13.0 and would absolutely destroy 12.0s like the Tornado F3 or Phantoms. Tornado F3 could barely fight the Mig-29SMT when it only had R-27ERs, let alone R-77s. Mig-29SMT is currently one of the stronger 13.3s and whilst it is quite far behind many 13.7s, it should not move down.
Better solution would be to move most 13.7s up to 14.0
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Are we really comparing a fighter to a strike aircraft here?
GRB, STRF 9040C, 10.3 > 10.0.
STRF 9040C isn’t all that crazy. Yes, it gets better armor and round, but also worse mobility and way less ammo it can take. It is NOT on the same level as the BMP-2M, which gets better firerate and ATGMs, aswell as WAY better mobility.
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Ok so I get that we are moving everything up, but really do you think we should move Ariete As well? The guy is not interesting in any way and it’s easily the worst MBT in game so why don’t we just leave him where he is 🥺
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Sorry, I edited
January 2025 ? Maybe
Air RB, J35D. 10.3 > 10.0.
Before it used to be able to compete on flight performance despite not having countermeasures. After its flight model nerf it’s outclassed and with the planned changes it will be virtually unplayable against the masses of 11.0 & 11.3 planes with high-G rear-aspect IR, all-aspect IR and radar missiles.
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Dawg got me emotional about a tank
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Tank - char 25t (& Amx 50 TO90)
Mode - GRB
Br - from 8.0 to 7.7
The 25t has nothing to do in 8.0 except for his quick reload, but shooting fast without breaking through doesn’t really matter imo.
Now you’re going to think the 25t is made to flank not going up front, but due to his speed and poor acceleration it’s pretty hard to go to great spot when you have contestant way better at his BR (for exemple: DF 105, object 906)
Futehrmore i’ll make a brief comparison between the 25t and the object 906 which is better in every way but still at the same BR, got stabilizater, better speed, even the first amo are better than the one you’ve got at the end of research with the 25t. The two vehicule are made for the same purpose but yet it’s very unbalanced.
To conclude I’ll had that you often get uptier, and I hardly remember the game i really play in 8.0 which is even more unfair. What am I suppose to do against a object 279?
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