Planned Battle Rating Changes for February 2025

Ground Realistic

Churchill VII

4.7 → 4.3

While it seems to have the some of the best armor for its BR, at the same time, it can easily be killed by shooting the forehead of the turret, or by shooting the front of its tracks, where ammo is right behind it. Its cannon cannot do anything at its BR other than really to track the enemies and maybe kill light tanks. You cannot shoot at weak spots, since it is using solid shot, so the most you will do is only maybe damage the enemy crew member behind the weakspot.

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Vehicle - AB 205 A-1
Mode - GRB
BR - 7.7 → 7.3/0

A mingun that does basicly nothing to most vehicles, and 14 rockets without CCIP, you need to get close to have any chance of even 1 kill, but 2 bulets hitting you and you cant fire anymore, basicly worthless currently

Ground Realistic

Churchill Crocodile

4.7 → 4.3

While it seems to have the some of the best armor for its BR, at the same time, it can easily be killed by shooting the forehead of the turret, or by shooting the front of its tracks, where ammo is right behind it. Its cannon cannot do anything at its BR other than really to track the enemies and maybe kill light tanks. You cannot shoot at weak spots, since it is using solid shot, so the most you will do is only maybe damage the enemy crew member behind the weakspot.

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US props kept turnfighting it > zeros won in turnfights > it has a high average KD

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I’m talking about KPz-70, not MBT-70, they’re different.

Abrams is a whole different categories of what gaijin need to change

bro m2kcs4/5 currently are most imbalanced planes in the game
u can easily get to kd 4 just because of how good this plane is

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Mode: Ground RB
Vehicle: Type 81 (C) Tan-SAM kai
BR Change: 11.3 → 10.7
Reason: Compare to the HQ-17/Tor-M1/2S6, it cannot intercept incoming missile, cannot lock helicopter at 5 km+ (sometimes can’t even lock helicopter at 3km), does not even have a search-radar/IRST, have a max launch range of 10 km, cannot engage any ground target nor defend itself using smoke, also having bad mobility. i.e. Unable to do anything against long-range ATGM carrier, and can’t even run away from them.

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Ground RB, Ozelot. 9.7 > 9.3. Two issues would be fixed:

  1. The ZSU-23-4M4 and PGZ04A are both at 9.3 and not only have IRCCM missiles but also proper radar and guns. The SANTAL is also at 9.3 with 12 missiles and much better ones. Therefore, the Ozelot should at least have the same BR, but not a higher one.
  2. With the BR decompression from the last BR changes, 9.3 becomes a playable BR, but the best AA for a German lineup would be the Gepard (8.3), which is underwhelming at 9.3.

P.S.
If you think the Ozelot is too good for 9.3 then ALL missile-AA vehicles should be raised at least to 9.7.
Even the Type 93 has a significant advantage over the Ozelot with its contrast mode which makes it possible to attack helicopters before they have killed your whole team. Non-contrast-mode AA can only lock helicopters at about 2,4km while the helicopters around that BR have 3,75-4km range. Even AA guns have a longer effective range (IF YOU WOULD HAVE GUNS).

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Flight performance? Have you played it? I agree 8.7 but you’re actually making a bait post if you think the Alpha jet and this are equal in flight performance, i think alpha should be 8.7 ground rb but sending it to 9.0 where there is no lineup would make it useless.

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Where is br extension??
Can’t understand all of 12.0 top ground vehicles have same BRs and how long should we meet missile air planes with non flare planes?
You should explain why there’s no BR extension specifically

J-11A Air RB BR13.7>13.3 and fold it with J-11,it still lacks the ability tofightwith other 13.7s Fighter

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R-73 and Fakour-90 would be too good for 13.0. That’s 13.3 material.

yeah
its absolutely cracked in a downtier, but in an uptier it’s gonna be urg which is a pain
it’s very good but man 13.7 is gonna be rough if it happens every game
not even gonna bother mentioning decompression anymore bc atp gaijin has shown they either wont do it or will do it and then proceed to recompress everything afterwards

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Speed? Fakour-90 is as fast as or even faster than R-27ER in War Thunder.
You talk with so much humor. Did you not know that Fakour-90 is actually based on a Ground to Air missile?

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the T80UD premium in GRB needs to be moved to 10.7 or higher
even without thermals its contact 5 armorer is very strong at 10.3 and its very unfair

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Ground Realistic

Tortoise

6.7 → 6.3

While it is like a bunker that drives around, and have a gun that can do decent amount of damage for a solid shot. Its armor just doesn’t hold up at the current BR it have. It have multiple weakspots that are impossible to cover all at the same time.

With out any changes to the way APHE currently works, it is far to easy to instantly kill the tank by shooting its machine-gun turret.

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Ground RB, AMX-13 (FL11) : 4.3 > 4.0 (or even 3.7 like in the past).

This thing is not better than the M24 or the AMX-13-M24, while it’s BR is way too high. It should be decreased to either 4.0 or 3.7 like the two other one.

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it was never based on aim-54
it is based on I-HAWK SAM

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It being good does not mean it should be put in a place where it would be useless