Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

the msc should not in any way be moved up, at 10.7 its decent, its ammo is ok at 425mm of pen only being carried by its very fast speed, its mobility is alright, armor is on the poorer side and sights being ok. the reason the vehicle preforms well is because french players tend to be veterans not normal casual players. moving it to 11.0 would do nothing but make it so france will again have no 10.7 lineup but also isolate the msc to be ignored as bringing a 2a4 to a uptier is already a disaster

the PT16 shouldnt be moved up simply because it already lacks strong ammo and thermals as well as armor for the br, moving it to 11.0 would put it only .3 below the type90 which offers better everything, ammo, sights, thermals, composite by miles and at 10.7 dm23 is already a weaker round to the other 120mm shells you can find around that area

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Vehicle: TAM, TAM 2C, TAM 2IP
Gamemode: Realistic
BR Change:
TAM: 8.7 → 9.7
TAM 2C: 10.3 → 11.3
TAM 2IP: 9.3 → 10.3
Reasoning: Light tanks are a lower battle rating because of their armor, but for the TAM series, that is not the case. As all of them feature shells that are found as standard on the Leopard 2 series in the 10.0+ region, combined with great armor, then these vehicles should be raised by one BR as they could be considered on the same level as the CV90105, albeit without an autoloader.
For decompression and balance’s sake, these three light tanks are not something that should face T-55s and Centurions on the regular, and instead should face vehicles of the T-80, Challenger 1 and M1 series.

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Mode : Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle : Sabra Mk.1
Change : 10.0 → 10.0
Reasoning : Why does Sabra only go up while M60AMBT remain at 10.0?

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aren’t 120C-5s and 120Bs borderline equal with their current representation? either way, i really don’t think BVR should be the ultimate balancing factor at top tier, you still end up in dogfights pretty often in my experience

yea no sorry to tell you.
Unless its a very late game 1 on 1, there are not gonna be actual dogfights occuring.

Vehicle: Sovetsky Soyuz

Gamemode: Naval Arcade & Naval Realistic

BR Change: 8.7 —> 9.0 (9.3 would be better)

Reason: The Soyuz is without a doubt, the strongest ship in the game and the only ship that realistically stands a chance is the Iowa at 8.7. All other ships are DOA in a 1v1 against a Soyuz. It is completely unreasonable for 7.7 ships to be facing the Soyuz and Ideally, most 8.0s wouldnt either. Even 8.3s would benefit greatly if they didnt have to face the Soyuz but that level of decompression is currently not possible

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The OCU has AIM-9M…
How is it worse than the F-16C?

Yes they’re pretty much equal except for at longer ranges where the AIM-120C shines. This is more relevant in the beginning of the match where the F-15E with its rocket spaceship engines can fire AIM-120C from 40km and still hit.

He wants to call you a slur, not me.

It has 45 countermeasures

Don’t waste your time or try to have a discution with them, they already made up their mind.

Mode : Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle : Stormer HVM
Change : 10.3 → 10.0
Reasoning : Stormer HVM only has missiles with no VT fuse, but 10.3 is not balanced.
I think 10.0 is appropriate.

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No, C-5s ig rn are worse in everything but range compared to A/Bs atm. They also pull less when they should pull more.

Haven’t played it for a bit how much better is the turning radius because I remember it being really bad

I wrote this before, but I’ll put it again. The Merkava 2 needs the M428 and the modular armored areas to be much more resistant to KE bullets. Once this is done, they can raise the Br to 10.3 or even 10.7.

no radar HMD & like a 3rd of the countermeasure load

Range isnt their only flaw…

Chaff hungry like no other “top tier” missile

Too many times r77 misses when thy are nowhere near the notch

Turm III 8.3 > 8.7 in GRB
Because it is no coincidence this was the most played vehicle period last time we heard, Falcon is at 8.3 with those 30mm Cannons alone, Turm III is faster and also of course has an autoloaded 105mm shooting DM23 that really makes things like M60A1 and Vickers Mk 3 seem redundant. I realise the APDS is not present on the Turm III 30mm but frankly that SAP/APSE shell it gets is already incredibly strong, it turns anything with 60mm armour is less into scrap and in the Turm III you can effectively prefire and charge around a corner rattling off that powerful round. It can mop up teams.

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It shouldn’t be raised because it’s not happening.

Or they could actually buff the Stormer HVM and Starstreaks up to IRL performance rather than ignoring year+ old reports for things like:

  • IFF & NCTR
  • IRST issues
  • Starstreak max range
  • Starstreak speed

etc etc

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