Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Give Strike & Bomber aircraft an airspawn by default as they had it years ago, rank 6 and above. These class of aircraft suffer from AF spawn and approach into the main field of combat, can’t bomb bases cuz of teammates in faster fighters bombing bases, and enemies targeting helpless Strikers & Bombers.

Suggestions:
ARB - Reduce BR for F-4E Kurnass 2000 to 12.0
ARB - Reduce F-16A Blk 10 (the ones with non-irccm missiles) to 12.0
ARB - Reduce F-14A IRIAF & F-14B to 12.7
ARB - Reduce A-10C to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Q-5A to 9.3
ARB - Reduce Q-5L to 9.7
ARB - Reduce A-5C to 10.3
ARB - Reduce J-8F to 12.7
ARB - Reduce Su-17M3, M4s, 22s to 10.7
ARB - Reduce F-111F & F-111C to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Su-24M to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Buccaneer S2B to 9.7
ARB - Reduce Tornado GR.1, IDS [Ger, Italy], IDS 1995, IDS MLU to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Tornado GR.4 to 11.3
ARB - Reduce Jaguar IS to 10.3
ARB - Reduce Sea Harrier FA.2 to 12.7
ARB - Increase J-7D to 11.0
GRB - Reduce Chi-Nu-II to 3.7
GRB - Reduce SUB-I-II to 4.7
GRB - Reduce Skink [US, UK] to 4.7
GRB - Reduce Kugelblitz to 6.0

– Rank increase for M24 Chaffee & AMX-13-M24 [USA, China, France ] to rank 3
– Give MiG-29 (9.12A, G) R-73’s and takeaway their R-27’s as these are ahistorical, increase BR appropriately.
– Remove the AIM-9J from the Germ F-104G & F-4F [E, L] as Germany nvr used the 9Js irl–they skipped the 9Js. They went 9B->9B FGW.2->9L/I. Therefore reduce their BRs for ARB–F-104G to 9.3, F-4F [E] to 10.0, & [L] to 10.3
– Give F-100F AIM-9P and increase BR to 10.0
– Leave XM-800T to its current BR.
– Leave the Sabra to its current BR.
– AGS give it M900 shell and increase.
– Leave the Merkava Mk.2D to its current BR.

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if Tiger II (H) gets 38kph as max speed, i will agree with it, 34kph is too low, its below average

The ‘T’ in SuperTEMP literally means ‘Tornado,’ so adding them would be an ahistoric change.

I’m personally for it, but I could see how others would not be.

AIM-9L is a must have, though.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qDKeGlF2bDex

Whilst they were originally for that. A source was found for them on the Phantoms

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Very cool! Then they definitely should be added.

Absolutely no reason to have the FG.1 & FGR.2 be functionally identical in game.

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how about no

Instead of dropping both, these planes should be differentiated.

FG.1 should stay as it is and drop to 11.7. This would represent an early version of this aircraft.

FGR.2 should stay at 12.0 and get AIM-9L + Skyflash SuperTEMP.

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11.7 with IRCM? yeah no that should not happen

All Modes: Sd.Kfz.251.22
Reload speed: 5.9s → 5s.

The gun is identical to that of the Marder III H, in an open topped configuration too. It would make sense for the reload to be reduced in line with the Marder’s.

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Yep here you can see the two TT variants have a K/D ratio roughly in line with other TT MBTs. As for the premium one, I can’t explain why that one is higher - usually it is the other way around like how the US ones are. So again why are they going up? If they ruin 10.3 then decompress the game.

watch them increase the reload of the marder

As much as I love to abuse the Homare 23, it is a clear upgrade over the base model B7A2.

It should absolutely be 0.3 BR higher.

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HOW ABOUT NO? We don’t need 9Ms at 11.0.

How about NO? Maybe 11.7 or 12.0 but 11.3 is crazy.

This has PL-12, no.

In what world does this make sense to you, what can justify a f16 at 12.0? It certainly isn’t the fact it uses 9Ls which ARRIVE AT 12.0 ON MOST FIGHTERS with HALF the flight model and avionics.

No, they have R-60Ms.

No, 9Ms.

No, 9Ms.

You are trolling? This has Magic 2s.

It has amraams, no.

yeah cause im sure r73s make this 13.0 worthy with r27r’s?

No, undertiered.

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Don’t need more compression

did someone really say F-16A to 12.0?
wtf

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I would love for these changes

  • saab 105OE to be 8.0 in ground battles, it’s the same as saab105g but without the bombs and therefore no CCIP. some people say it get the RB05A, but let’s be honest SK60B gets then at 7.0 already

  • PzH 2000 to move to 8.0 in ground battles because of its laser range finder and powerful HE.

  • Gneisenau to move up to 8.0 in arcade and realistic duo to its scripling power against 6.7 ships which struggle to do any kind of damage to it or survive its fire power.

  • sPZ to remain at 6.7 as its not competitive enough for a br increase and the better version (FIAT 6614) is also at 6.7 which makes a br increase controversial

  • PT-16/t-14 to remain at 10.7, although people say its strong i want you to keep in mind that leopard 2a4, a version with thermals and armor capable of surviving auto canons is 10.7 and the only downside is it have a 2 second slower reload.

Hope you take my suggestion into consideration, and thank you

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you can also see that Click-Baits KD is only slightly worse than both TT Type 90 varians by 0.10 despite being premium and played nearly 4x times more than both TT Type 90s combined.

So where is this

you were talking about?

probably because its premium thus more easily accesible, played much more than both TT counterparts combined, and, i dont know, stomps in downtiers?

also, how are you doing the quote thing?

Just select the text and click the quote button that appears

in contention for worst post on the forum

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