Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Nf-5a
(All)
From 30 regular caliber and 15 high caliber to 60 regular caliber

Su-27/J-11
Air realistic.
13.0 - 13.3.
Same reason as the previous 2 suggestions.
These vehicles need to move up with top BR to give 12.0 a rest.

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Gamemode: air rb

vehicule: the vautour II familiy

from 9.0 to 8.3

reasonning: they are unplayable at their current br, facing planes than can zoomclimb them in seconds and now are higher br than a supersonic bomber equipped with flares (yak28B), and nothing can justify that.

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F-4F
11.0>11.7, add AIM-9L
Reasoning:
The AIM-9L was literally the main missile of this aircraft and the AIM-9J was only for training. The F-4F is worse than the Kurnass 2000 which should be 12.0, hence why 11.7 is the optimal BR.

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Tiger 2 engine output is correct right now and shouldn’t be reduced to 600
https://normandy-victory-museum.fr/en/the-tiger2/

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Air rb
Mirage 3S

Either moved down to 10.0 or keep at 10.3 but gain aim9P

Did yall forget the 10.5cm Tiger exist?

F-18A.
Air realistic.
12.3 to 12.7.
This vehicle is slightly superior to F-16A ADF and it being 0.3 BRs lower is an insult.

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If you really want to make that silly KV 2 reload change to unrealistic 21secs… (show me a man that can load that can load that gun under 35secs…)

Consider moving the KV2s to BR. of 4.3 then… but I am really against this unrealistic reload change…

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F-18C Early [all].
Air realistic.
12.7 to 13.0.

With the decompression occurring, and hopefully powerful 13.0s moving to 13.3, this should move to its rightful spot alongside F-14B.
8x [or 10x] missiles with great flight performance and radar.

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it’s a different engine and the kungstiger also didn’t get mentionned

J7W1
Air RB
BR 6.0 -----> BR 5.0

Reasoning:
This plane simply does not have the perfomance required to be at 6.0, its straight line speed is the same as 4.0 aircrafts, it can’t prophang due to engine layout, the climb rate is horrible at it’s BR and you get outclimbed by everything.

Alternatively, let it stay at 6.0, make it an interceptor/strike aircraft and give it an airspawn

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0st replying for all your whining posts about aas
1st all spaas must be lowered by 1 br
2nd spawn a tank
3rd get good
4th play cas in air realistic

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Then it’s obvious the Su-27SM should move to 14.0 with this round of decompression.
J-11A is however better flight performance than Su-34 but far worse radar.

The MSC going up from 10.7 defeats the whole point of it existing in the first place.

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given it’s irl role was intended to be an interceptor im surprised it doesn’t have an airspawn already

I think the weight adjustment of F16A should be set to 13.0 because the improved F16A does not have the helmet sight and 180 rounds of chaff and flare like F16D with the same weight. Moreover, it lacks AIM9M and more advanced active missiles. Facing opponents with a weight of 14.3, this makes the changes to the F16A family a mistake. I hope F16A can be set to 13.0 and be limited to carrying only 2-4 AIM120A missiles or be equipped with a helmet sight and more advanced missiles to compete with opponents in the same weight class.

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Vehicle: Mig-23MLD

Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Simulator

BR Change: ARB: 11.7 —> 12.0. ASB 11.3 —> 11.7

Reason: The Mig-23MLD is an extremely strong aircraft, able to easily outperform all others currently at 11.3 in ASB and 11.7 in ARB.

It has:

  • 4x All-apect IR missiles at a BR where most have none
  • 2x of the best SARH missiles below 12.3 or 2x of the best Non-IRCCM IR missiles in the game
  • One of the highest top speeds at the BR
  • Good handling and dogfighting ability if used right
  • IRST (very powerful in ASB)
  • Large calibre CMs

It has only 2x weaknesses. SPO-15 has limitations, though still stronger than the F-104.ASA’s RWR and comparable to the Viggen Ds RWR at 12.0 and the issues surround MTI auto-switching. However neither of these are enough to warrant the Mig-23MLD to be so under BRed

It’s closest equivalents are the 12.0 Phantoms such as the F-4S & F-4J(US). It is unreasonable for the Mig-23MLD to remain at its current BR in both gamemodes.

Ideally, Mig-23MLA and Mig-23ML would join it, but SPO-10 is just weak enough to limit that at this time, though SPO-10 is still stronger than the F-104.ASA’s RWR

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For realistic, why BMP-3, BMD-4s, BMP-2M, 2S38 not being upped in BR?

I can justify BMP-3 but the others?

M1 KVT / M1 Abrams (10.7) give M833 round.

Also RIP China 11.0

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museum statements are usually ignored due to unreliability

and for good reason, if they did take museums at their word we’d have a 13mph top speed Jadgtiger (Bovington)