Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

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I’m not certain about this sources validity but it seems like something many players use. At least here the C is marginally better in booster/sustainer and identical in all other aspects to the B.

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basically just a proxy fuze

100%. If the Mig-23MLD can use the excuse that the SPO-15 isnt good enough for 12.0. Then the F-104 should be 11.0 using the same excuse

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1l0yozv/begleitpanzer_57_mm_w_every_missing_modification/

Easy, one throws 10g and the igla-s throws 20g, assuming that in that br the one that throws the most is 13g It would be somewhat unfair and would make the Shilka the best spaa in the BR, you compete against the FIM that spin 13g and the -S spin

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Great to add to an spaa that could have been moved up anyway. The siddam nistral is sat at 9.7 while missing a search radar and only being given lead when the target is within 2km.

Fair but at that point you might as well play the 13.0 with god tier R27er and punish the lobby every downtier.

J11 13.0 gets so many more downtiers than the su27 13.0. J11 is one of my favorite jets to fly.

Su27sm one of my least lol

And it rotates at 20g, and the fim-92k at most 13g, so that’s unfair, right?

No

oooooh ok yeah I agree then, move that Shilka up at least one br step

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Whoever thinks the 2s38 doesnt deserve an increase in br is delusional at this point tbh. Same with he bmd and bmp 3 scourge.

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F-104G (Ger, Fra)
11.0>10.7
F-104G (It)
11.0>10.7, add belly AIM-9J like the rest of the 104Gs
F-104G (CN)
10.7>10.3

Reasoning:
The F-104Gs onward just aren’t good aircraft. Not even the fastest at their BRs, while turning terribly and having poor armaments.

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T29 at 7.0 with a 15 second ACE reload is a joke bruh

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First good suggestion

it’s only a comment, it’s not destined to gaijin, but thank you still.

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F-104S, S (TAF)
11.3>11.0
Reasoning:
Again, these aircraft are pretty terrible. 11.3 is the same BR as the F-4E ffs!

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T29 getting a worse reload than the Sturer Emil. Might as well just drop the reload nerf and move it to 7.3 if y’all think it’s that good.

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I don’t think the SU34 has the ability to go to 13.7, because compared to the SU27SM and J11A, it does not have the same abilities as the Su27SM and J11A, such as energy conservation and energy output. The Su34 does not even have a helmet sight, which seriously limits the Su34’s missile launch capabilities in many scenarios and greatly reduces the probability of the missile successfully attacking or even launching out. So I don’t think he has the ability to go up to 13.7 unless he is given the R77-1 missile, which can help the Su34 gain more powerful over-the-horizon combat capabilities, allowing him to have enough strength at 13.7 while not having a helmet sight and not being able to have stronger melee combat capabilities like other SU27 families. This can greatly ensure the characteristics of the SU34 in air combat mode, and at the same time ensure full playability compared to the SU27SM or J11A in the same series

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F-104S.ASA
12.0>11.3
Again a pretty poor aircraft. Fast, sure, but also with terrible maneuverability. 12.0 is pretty absurd.

Could be 12.0 if it had AIM-9L(I) but I’d prefer a seperate ASA-M for that.

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Vehicle: SMS Elbing
Gamemode: Naval Realistic
BR Change: 4.7 -----> 4.3
Reason: Despite it has 150mm cannons, it actually only has 4 of them on each side. Additional, it has almost no armour, making it extremely vulnerable to destroyers. 4.3 is a more reasonable BR for it at this time

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