Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: MSC
BR Change: 10.7 → 11.0/11.3

If this BR change is needed, a buff to the reload speed would be appreciated. I say 11.3 because the reload can go down to 3s max (I understand that the reload speed is a balancing tool). Anything better would be appreciated, even just 5s like the other Leclercs!

See this “accepted” report for the reload speed:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uakoAAOUVhKR

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Jaguar A

Remove Magic 1 modification and make the missile stock.

Jaguar at 10.7 without a missile in Air RB is useless, not only that, british Jaguar Gr 1A gets Aim 9G stock.

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+1

AGS not getting M900 on this spreadsheet is criminal given the future vehicles it’s gonna have to fight. T-90M can already shrug off M833 with its upgraded ERA package, making side shots a gamble unless you’re quick enough to aim below the side skirts

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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: FGR.2 and FG.1
BR Change: 12.0 → 11.7

Both the phantoms sitting at 12.0 is an over tier, I believe it should be moved to 11.7 or they should be given buffs accordingly, they are seriously underperforming at the current BR they are at, constantly faces fox 3’s, and 4th gen aircrafts, its a fun aircraft, but I hate to see it get slaughtered due to the terrible BR it’s put at.

PS: Also, the FGR.2 and FG.1 and a lot of phantoms usually tend to fight aircrafts like gripen, which in my opinion is VERY unfair.

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Vehicle: F-16A ADF, F-16A ADF (Italy) & F-16A MLU

Gamemode: All

Change: Add IRCCM IR Missiles such as Aim-9M or Aim-9Li

Reason: It would be extremely unreasonable to have any aircraft above 13.0 without IRCCM missiles, especially with the F-16D Barrak II at the same BR of 13.3 already gets Aim-9Ms

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Mode: Air Simulator Battles
Vehicle: A-10C
BR Change: 11.7 → 12.0

Reason: While being a slow platform, the A-10C has more than enough to make up for it with MAW, HMD and four AIM-9M, which can be aimed with the HMD. Fairly maneuverable it can easily take on everything and never run out of ordnance. It simply doesn’t belong at 11.7 as the BRs in this game mode work differently and there’s barely anything to take on it considering what it’s equipped with.

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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: AMX
BR Change: 10.7 → 9.3 and removal of AIM-9L

When the L-39ZA was introduced, it was explained that it would not carry AAMs despite being able to IRL in order to place the vehicle at a BR that is more appropriate for its flight model. This is fantastic logic, but I dont understand why it was just applied to the L-39 and not all the other subsonic attackers with high-powered missiles (think Su-25, A-10, etc.) The AMX has a unique flight model and carries a vulcan, it would be a welcome addition to the 9.3 region where I suspect it would play like hunter with a different set of quirks, I suspect it would be fun to play and rather balanced at around this BR. It is wasted sitting at 10.7 with AIM-9Ls

they don’t want to make it spaa bcs it will get otomatic treatment and if not it will rise question of why otomatic is ammo nerfed, i doubt 2s38 carry like 99% apfsds like most people do irl and i dont think u need to limit the ammo for other vehicles like it too

Tornado IDS ASSTA.1
11.7>11.3
Reason: lack of flight performance and lack of advantages over the MFG, WTD in ARB (guided munitions aren’t significant)

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I think most people can agree arb max BR should be 15.0
13.0 sucks for most jets, and it will still suck even tho stuffs going to 14.0
12.0 needs separation from almost all 13.0 jets, and same for 11.0 from 12.0.

Bring more br decompression so that more planes can have a better chance of doing something, rather than getting wrecked by something with better flight performance, weapons and technology.

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I dont think it does. At least I remember gunfighting my way to a bomb in both the British Jags.

12.0 is an too much, it shouldnt face fox 3’s all the time, 11.7 is perfectly fine for where the a-10c is.

Tornado IDS (1995)
11.7>11.3
Reason: lack of flight performance and lack of advantages over the MFG, WTD in ARB (guided munitions aren’t significant)

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Also SdKfz 234/2 (TD) is left out of the BR change and should be included.

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Tornado IMLU RET8
11.7>11.3
Reason: lack of flight performance and lack of advantages over the MFG, WTD in ARB (guided munitions aren’t significant)

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Super Etendard

Remove or move Magic 1 modification to rank I-II.

Again, at 10.3, the plane without a missile is almost useless.

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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: F-14B
BR Changes: 13.0 → 13.3
Reason: Give F-14B AIM-9M, it’s still one of worse aircraft in 13.0, it has been powercrept by the new Fox 3 meta, if ADF Series can be given new life with their AMRAAM, so does F-14B, Phoenix is no more as meta as now especially Phoenix is the only missile that don’t have angle gating, so chaffing once can permanently decoy the missile.

Tornado GR.1
11.7>11.3
Reason: lack of flight performance and lack of advantages over the MFG, WTD in ARB (guided munitions aren’t significant)

as a counterpoint, only having subpar sparrows and sidewinders against, rafale, EF, etc. just isnt it. I tried to spade the baz yesterday and it was misserable, you are outmatched at all ranges and all you can do is bomb bases. Although i agree that the F15 shouldnt face 12.0, neither should it face current 13.7+

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Vehicle: Pokryshkin’s P-39N-0
Game Mode: Air RB
Change: 3.0 to 2.7
Reason: US P-39N-0 is at 2.7 and Pokryshkin’s P-39N-0 is the same plane, but slightly worse everywhere. It has no choice of belts for 37mm, so it is stuck with 50/50 AP/HE ammunition (it is not a bug, apparently), has no .30 cals in the wings and at the moment is at a higher BR than US one.

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