Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

bmd-4m → 10.3 would be “balanced” as its hugely better than the zbd-04.
~2x depression with hyrdalics, much better hp/t, better atgms, almost 2x turret speed, but at a cost of having a 1 second longer reload and 4 less atgms.

after 160 matches with the zbd i have come to a conclusion that the apfsds rounds are worthless: the they deal much less damage than the apds rounds with a minimal increase in penetration. they are not worth bringing along.
but the zbd is still an excellent light tank at 10.0.

BMD-4M:
Slightly faster
Faster turret traverse
Only 4 ATGMs.
Hydraulics which you will often not use.

ZBD04A:
LWS / LR
Darts (20 mm more pen the bmd/bmp APDS rounds, and far less likely to shatter)
More armor
(Doesn’t say there’s a reload penalty on atgm load time)

Oh yeah, definitely should be 10.3 for the bmds, definitely. Okay Pangloin.

You do understand the primary weapon of these vehicles is the 30 mm right?

i agree and as i already said, the apfsds rounds are inferior to apds rounds.

39.3 hp/t vs 26.2 hp/t
“Slightly faster” bruh…

definedly a skill issue. hydralics are always worth using on nonflat maps, also the turret ring is angled 3 extra degrees downwards already without using any hydralics.

laser warning system is nice, but not really needed at 10.0(cannot face UCAV). bmd-4m also has a LR.

why do you need the extra armor? its not like zbd is tanking any autocannon rounds.

bmd-4(m) 100mm reloads in 5s, zbd in 4s. basic information. makes little difference as almost nobody has sub 5s reload at 9.0-11.3.

To add the discussion,

Playing the Beglit, cv9030, and bmd-4M today, I really haven’t been able to do the best.

But. Given the fact I was keeping up with a bmd-4M in a cv9030 that was stock, (granted I was bait for three of his kills) I still don’t get why the cv9030 & Beglit constantly 1 tap vs the bmds and bmds don’t.

By far the Beglit has the current best cannon id say, I will have to see what the cv9030 with darts is like

Granted I do still believe the CV9030 should be a 9.0

BMP-3 should be 9.3
BMD-4M 9.3
And BMD-4 at 9.7

APFSDS is not inferior… in the slightest way. What are you smoking?

Nice lie
ZBD04A:

BMD-4 (literally the better bmd)

They both have the same exact forward max speed. And as I said, the bmd-4 has a slight forward, a big reverse advantage.

you can remove the extra armor on the bmd-4m that weighs 1ton dummy.
with it removed 4m has 39,28 hp/t.

id take the extra hp/t over the better reverse speed anyday.

dont be so quick to call someone a liar when you are so clueless.

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Strange, pretty much same hp/t what did you say it was? 39.28? Magic number, from a liar.

The extra armor is needed because .50 cals will kill you fairly easily. Unlike the ZBD04A.

pretending to suddenly being unable to read, classic.

quick math lesson for you 550hp / 14t = 39,28…
math is apparently magic now.

Vehicle: Shenyang F-5
BR Change: Ground Realistic Battles 9.3 → 8.7
Reasoning:
It is functionally identical to the MiG-17/17PF in grb, both of which are 8.7 in grb, it lacks guided munitions typically found on most 9.3’s and only has 2 250kg bombs without a bombing computer.

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I’m just quoting you guy.

Nobody in their right mind would take the armor off

why? you argued that the event bmd-4 is supposedly better because its faster, but it cant access the armor package at all. so its suddenly worse? choose already

dying to 50cal is not a huge issue. also the armor package makes 0 difference frontally, its only on the sides.

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Did you check the fact, that in the photo I posted the bmd-4 can reverse at 70 kph?

Particular WT forums users once again provide amazing entertainment for my breaks, holy cope Batman

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@Pheonix_RX01

Idk, CV9030 May be a good 9.0 I just dropped a nuke in it. Without many upgrades yet.

Either that or I’m just really good.

and? did you also know that you can turn around in .5 second in the bmd? when are you gonna need 70kph reverse?

It has a “nato hump” unless you literally reduce your frontal gun depression to about 6 degrees, all to shoot rear ward.

i dont see the issue, its already faster to spin the tank around rather than solely turning the turret. why not just do that?

Send reply link then, remember what i said show you’re proof as it helps show stats.

BOL Chaff has 25% of the RCS of Standard Caliber and only stays airborne for about 1/3 the time

You have to stop… to do so? Or be mostly stopped.