Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

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In this case, what to do with the Dreken, 10.3 he does not deserve, 9.3 let’s be honest we should not mess with him when he has 20G rockets, a good part of 9.7 too. Also, he can’t resist because of his engine, thrust, and speed loss of 10.7+. What is your suggestion, something similar to the J35A, but with rockets that increase its BR? Make a suggestion — that’s what the discussion is for. Why are you against the downgrade — I understand.

we console players need to get low quality settings like get to turn off bushes on map like pc and laptop do

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The xs has over the j35a:

-better engine
-better armement
-flares/chaff
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You could go as far as to say the j35xs is undertiered

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i understand your argument to say that the J-35XS is too high BR compared to what’s next to it at same BR,…

i have the same feeling with Mirage 4000.

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Both are in similar states - can’t go down due to weaponnary, but to bad for their BR.

Also winrate is meaningless, since i was carried in all my wins of the day, playing Mirage 4000 (* even saw a Su-33 doing 7 kills alone - an aircraft of same BR than Mirage 4000)

PS: Statshark have pretty interesting Datas - player to player -

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And also have 120hz on Playstation 5 i know it handle it

Imo m4k weponary isnt all that good. Its just more missiles than the m2k. There is f18s at 12.3 with hella radar missiles. There is one at 12.7 aswell.

I only play France and can’t say anything about the tech I haven’t touched. When it first came out, I know it was good, at least it looked nice. But that time has passed, and it’s extremely rare to see it in battle, which says a lot. But judging by what you say, the vehicle is a hostage to its missiles, like the Draken.

Okay, J35A 9.3 - correct? What’s the problem with lowering XS to 9.7 and taking away its 9J, replacing them with 9b? It has one gun with a wild parallax. This would basically explain the difference between the two. Otherwise, this technique is hostage to missiles, just like the Mirage 4000 - that’s what I was told. In general, the game needs to change both the combat rating limits and their principle.

Well that would make it a j35a and people who bought the j35xs clearly didnt want the j35a and wanted the j35xs

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F-117 10.0 → 9.0 or 9.3

Mode: Ground Realistic

The F-117 is pretty bad at 10.0. Not only is it just worse than the A-4E Early which is 9.3, it’s only 0.3 lower than the A-7D and A-10A Early which are leagues better.

At 9.0, it will be far more useful, without being overpowered.

What is the reasoning the Ayit is being moved up? I’m guessing it’s because of its missiles+flares+flight performance, and would that reasoning not also apply to the early harriers? (Harrier GR.3 AV8A, AV8C, AV8S)

just fix the m300 round’s damage, and voila: its a good tank suddenly.

it doesnt make sense for a 60mm apfsds round with 250mm of pen to do less damage than a 30mm apds round with 80mm pen.

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harriers are 9.7 already and they have less missiles and a worse flightperformance than the ayit.

9G’s are better than shafir 2’s and 9D’s, but i will take 4 great missiles over 2 slightly better ones anyday.

it literally had pretty much the best flight performance at tier and also countermeasures which makes you untouchable if you are aware of your sroundings

not really.
mig-19, ariete, f100, hunter f85a(the new one), f4d, every 9.3-9.7 mig-21, q5-early, su-7 all have better flightperformance than the ayit.

its going up because of its missiles, it should be 9.7 even if its flares went missing.

Some day the Harriers will hopefully be good enough to justify a BR increase, but at the moment, they are pretty mid in anything but 1v1s (bar the AV-8S and AV-8A’s large CM count, that gives them a lot of flexibility)

Mode: ARB
Vehicle: Wyvern
BR change: 4.7 → 5.3 or 5.7
Reason: Come on this should be pretty obvious. Absolutely insane straight-line speed/performance <3000m combined with good firepower and suspended armament that is similar to planes like the AD-2 at 5.7. If used as an airspawning fighter the Wyvern can singlehandedly prevent opponents from gaining sufficient energy to play against the rest of its team or outright kill large numbers of them. If used as a ground attacker it is able to wipe large amounts of tickets without the possibility of being intercepted (or instantly ending the game in <5 minutes if the map allows for it) or caught if the pilot has some awareness of how linear energy retention works. Britain at this BR range would have absurdly high win rates if the majority of Wyvern players weren’t so atrociously bad at the game.

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World record was held by the ZA-35 for the longest time. It merely takes a fast vehicle, and YouTuber amounts of luck. Don’t be coy

Hmm, how is 4 missiles enough for anyone who doesn’t die within first minute of the match?