Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Will it hurt it moving it up to 10.7? No, far from it. Will it save everything bellow 9.7 from having to see it and be raped by it? Yes. So should it be moved up, YES.

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It will hurt if you move others battle rating 10.3 aswell, not on me honestly, either I’m terrible at the vehicle which I hope so or the vehicle indeed is simply crap and people complain about it when it gives a glince of good performance in a match when it’s not cherry picking from content creators. That’s why I go after decompression more than singular battle rating changes.

Because I agree with the 2S38 battle rating change:

As I said before and will say again I won’t oppose to battle rating changes when it’s needed and the information backing it up does exists, and this is clear in ground arcade battles. But battle rating changes suggestions only based on “Ifs” and “That” in my opinion is vague.

Eh cant move the XS up since it struggles against the far better 10.7 selection and struggles greatly in uptiers due to having no RWR, we need decompression as a whole.

Im still curious why gaijin keeps it so low, i assume its the influx of noob players who buy it. The comparison from Smin that the 9040’s performance is better is like the most silly thing. Hm vehicle you have to grind for, or vehicle i use money on, hm level 6 noobs who have instant access or players who tend to grind through the entire tree. Hm i wonder, regardless it doesn’t matter i just hope that if they move the 2S38 up that the rest if the CV90’s get their air tracking and m/01 APFSDS since they dint belong at 10.7 without air tracking while having similar poor mobility to the 2S38 and worse survivability.

Yep… Im 99% certain that the only reason the Tornado IDS at 11.3 are at 11.3 is because of premium noobs that dont know how to use CMs.

I’ve been one shotted at top tier by the 2S38 to know it would be perfectly fine at higher BRs

As much as I don’t like to be like an broken disk repeating stuff, I think you nailed it. Tech tree vehicles tend (not every vehicle obviously) to perform better than Premium counterparts specially at higher tiers where the learning curve is much more steep.

The thing with the Strf 9040C I would suppose is the awesome protection values, specially compared to 2S38’s, and Lvkv 9040C being a direct upgrade from it, it’s even better. It’s a shame you can’t fold the radar. It feels like walking around with a bucket in your head.

Isn’t it like 10.0 in ground btw?

Wth is the F 35 10.7

Awesome protection, are we just saying spall liners make it good? Cause im assuming you know the spall liner only covers the side and rear, its super easy to instantly disable or kill CV’s i fo it quite often with my RCV at 9.0 i really dont get their supposed protection and i play the CV’s a lot. Nearly any turret shot kills 1 or both crew killing you or kills 1 crew and disables the gun entirely.

Yes, but with pure unguided bombs… 10.0-10.3 would probably be about right given you have Phantoms with the same A2G but much better A2A at 10.7.

Im not sure whats up with the F-35, maybe rockets? But I doubt it

F 35 only has 9x 1000lb bombs… at 10.7

No missiles if you want bombs, its slower and only has 2 Aim 9P3

and 8x19 might mouse rocket pods.

Whilst the F-35 is much weaker defensively it does handle a lot better… Its tough. Either way. I think if you also compare the unguided tonkas to something like the Jaguar GR1A with GBUs at 10.3…

Though that bracket is just messy with CAS because of how compressed the BR above it is.

But for ARB/ASB. Its dumb the Tonkas are at different BRs

Handles better? Eh its a much heavier J35F with the same engine. It handles like its gonna fall out of the sky after 2 turns. Especially with a load equipped. You simply lack the engine power to get speed back making its mobility nil

Remember we are comparing to a tonka here… :D

Im the terms of dumb bombs ill take speed and bomb load over a jet that cant even pull a cobra.

You need speed to come up and into the battle before escaping, the F 35 lacks the speed required to survive 90% of runs. Additionally it lacks equivalent weapons, but tbf at the same BR i can just pull


I’m not referring only to spall liners but the external protection aswell. At the moment I don’t think there are no other IFV comparable except Schützenpanzer PUMA or KF-41 Lynx which I believe still lacking a lot of armor for an Schützenpanzer PUMA ‘upgrade’.

Angles yeah, the engine isnt penetrated by 92mm pen from my RCV but often i die because the 2S38 has a remote control turret making it nearly impossible for me to get a disabling shot before he nukes the turret crew and this is a reminder that the 9040’s dont have the problems the 9035 and 9030 have which is FCS. The 9035 is miserable because at 9.7 any shot will kill you or disable you for 40 secs minimum.


Any shot to the engine immediately spreads spall as it will hit the 10mm plate nuking either ammo or crew, imo easiest instant kill next to the 2 rounds that sit behind the merkava engines.

This is the big thing for whenever im fighting them. No matter what Im in. I have to expose enough of myself that a 2S38 can usually do massive damage, maybe even kill me. Whilst I can maybe disable their gun and thats it

Thats the thing, you might kill them via the turret but more often then not youll disable them for 20 seconds vs the CV90 which will either kill the CV90 or disable it for 40 seconds due to losing a crew member.

Lets not forget the 2S38 fuel tank casually eating MBT shells

Yep. Everything with crewless turrets is OP, but something with 57mm autocannon… damn it needs a nerf